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From: Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Julien Thierry <jthierry@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/7] objtool: Add support for intra-function calls
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:06:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a851047e-afd4-9d3d-60b7-8dd4be7423dc@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200402155436.q6qbuezmmarr24qp@treble>


On 4/2/20 5:54 PM, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 05:04:07PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 02, 2020 at 03:24:45PM +0200, Alexandre Chartre wrote:
>>> On 4/2/20 2:53 PM, Julien Thierry wrote:
>>>> On 4/2/20 9:22 AM, Alexandre Chartre wrote:
>>
>>>>> +    sec = find_section_by_name(file->elf,
>>>>> +                   ".rela.discard.intra_function_call");
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering, do we really need to annotate the intra_function_call
>>>> and group the in a section?
>>>>
>>>> Would it be a problem to consider all (static) call instructions with
>>>> a destination that is not the start offset of a symbol to be an
>>>> intra-function call (and set insn->intra_function_call and
>>>> insn->jump_dest accordingly)?
>>>
>>> Correct, we could automatically detect intra-function calls instead of
>>> having to annotate them. However, I choose to annotate them because I don't
>>> think that's not an expected construct in a "normal" code flow (at least
>>> on x86). So objtool would still issue a warning on intra-function calls
>>> by default, and you can annotate them to indicate if they are expected.
>>
>> I wondered the same thing when reading the patch. I'm confliected on
>> this. On the one hand auto-detecting this seems like an excellent idea.
>>
>> If/when the compiler generates them, they had better be okay too.
>>
>> Josh?
> 
> In general I prefer to keep it simple, and keep the annotations to a
> minimum.  And I don't think this warning has ever found anything useful.
> So I'd be inclined to say just allow them and automatically detect them.
> 
> However the fact that arm64 asm actually uses them worries me a bit.
> 
> So for me it kind of hinges on whether arm64 has a legitimate use case
> for them, or if the warning actually points to smelly code.
> 

Then what I can do is:
- by default, automatically detect and validate intra-function calls
- remove the INTRA_FUNCTION_CALL annotation
- add an objtool option to print a warning about intra-function calls
   (but still validate such calls).

This way by default intra-function calls are automatically detected and
validated. But you still have the option to print them out if you want
to check if there are any intra-function calls.

alex.

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-03  7:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02  8:22 [PATCH 0/7] objtool changes to remove most ANNOTATE_NOSPEC_ALTERNATIVE Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 1/7] objtool: is_fentry_call() crashes if call has no destination Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 2/7] objtool: Allow branches within the same alternative Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 12:03   ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02 12:38     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 3/7] objtool: Add support for intra-function calls Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 12:53   ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02 13:24     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 13:38       ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02 14:56         ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 15:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02 15:54         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03  7:06           ` Alexandre Chartre [this message]
2020-04-02 15:49     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-02 17:27       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03  8:01       ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-03 12:41         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 12:49           ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-03 14:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 14:44         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 4/7] objtool: Add support for return trampoline call Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 13:26   ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02 14:46     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02 15:31       ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-02 15:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03  8:11           ` Julien Thierry
2020-04-03 15:17             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 15:22               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 15:32                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 15:46               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 15:55                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-04 13:32                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-04 14:22                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-04 15:51                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06  8:19                       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-06  9:31                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-06 11:03                           ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-06 14:16                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-02 15:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03  7:19     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-06 14:34     ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-06 14:55       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 5/7] x86/speculation: Annotate intra-function calls Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-03 16:05   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 16:16     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 17:14       ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-03 17:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-03 17:24           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2020-04-03 18:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 6/7] x86/speculation: Annotate retpoline return instructions Alexandre Chartre
2020-04-02  8:22 ` [PATCH 7/7] x86/speculation: Remove most ANNOTATE_NOSPEC_ALTERNATIVE Alexandre Chartre

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