From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] rust: kernel: add support for bits/genmask macros
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:02:15 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFAx997imisc3HGk@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D12DC02A-E1EE-47F1-86AF-C25C492FA3D4@collabora.com>
On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 11:45:21AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>
>
> > On 16 Jun 2025, at 11:42, Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Boqun,
> >
> >>
> >> We should tell/educate people to do the right thing, if a..b is not
> >> inclusive in Rust, then we should treat them as non-inclusive in Rust
> >> kernel code. Otherwise you create confusion for no reason. My assumption
> >> is that most people will ask "what's the right way to do this" first
> >> instead of replicating the old way.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Boqun
> >>
> >
> > This is just my opinion, of course:
> >
> > I _hardly_ believe this will be the case. When people see genmask and two
> > numbers, they expect the range to be inclusive, full stop (at least IMHO). That's how it has
> > worked for decades, so it´s only natural to expect this behavior to transfer over.
> >
Well, there are always users who don't read the manual, but we shouldn't
encourage that ;-) Technically kernel internal API is unstable, so use
before fully understanding the semantics is a user risk.
And if we provided non-inclusive range as inclusive, there would be
complains (probably from the same people) that:
for_each_bit(genmask(a..b), |i| { do_sth(i); });
doesn't behave the same as:
for i in a..b { do_sth(i); }
And we cannot always make them happy ;-)
> > However, I do understand and agree with your point, and I will change the
> > implementation here to comply. Perhaps we can use some markdown to alert users?
> >
> > - Daniel
>
> Or better yet, perhaps we should only support a..=b.
>
Yes, given the const function factor for now, and I think eventually
most people will get themselves more familiar with Rust syntax.
Regards,
Boqun
> - Daniel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-16 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-10 14:14 Daniel Almeida
2025-06-10 18:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-10 20:52 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-14 13:38 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-14 15:06 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-14 15:56 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-14 16:05 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 20:58 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 13:48 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-20 20:47 ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-15 12:59 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 14:14 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:29 ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-16 14:42 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:45 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:52 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 14:56 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 15:02 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 15:02 ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-16 15:08 ` Alexandre Courbot
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