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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Alexandre Courbot" <acourbot@nvidia.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6] rust: kernel: add support for bits/genmask macros
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:02:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aFAx997imisc3HGk@Mac.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D12DC02A-E1EE-47F1-86AF-C25C492FA3D4@collabora.com>

On Mon, Jun 16, 2025 at 11:45:21AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 16 Jun 2025, at 11:42, Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Boqun,
> > 
> >> 
> >> We should tell/educate people to do the right thing, if a..b is not
> >> inclusive in Rust, then we should treat them as non-inclusive in Rust
> >> kernel code. Otherwise you create confusion for no reason. My assumption
> >> is that most people will ask "what's the right way to do this" first
> >> instead of replicating the old way.
> >> 
> >> Regards,
> >> Boqun
> >> 
> > 
> > This is just my opinion, of course:
> > 
> > I _hardly_ believe this will be the case. When people see genmask and two
> > numbers, they expect the range to be inclusive, full stop (at least IMHO). That's how it has
> > worked for decades, so it´s only natural to expect this behavior to transfer over.
> > 

Well, there are always users who don't read the manual, but we shouldn't
encourage that ;-) Technically kernel internal API is unstable, so use
before fully understanding the semantics is a user risk.

And if we provided non-inclusive range as inclusive, there would be
complains (probably from the same people) that:

    for_each_bit(genmask(a..b), |i| { do_sth(i); });

doesn't behave the same as:

    for i in a..b { do_sth(i); }

And we cannot always make them happy ;-)

> > However, I do understand and agree with your point, and I will change the
> > implementation here to comply. Perhaps we can use some markdown to alert users?
> > 
> > - Daniel
> 
> Or better yet, perhaps we should only support a..=b.
> 

Yes, given the const function factor for now, and I think eventually
most people will get themselves more familiar with Rust syntax.

Regards,
Boqun

> - Daniel 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-06-16 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-10 14:14 Daniel Almeida
2025-06-10 18:08 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-06-10 20:52   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-14 13:38 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-14 15:06   ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-14 15:56     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-14 16:05       ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-18 20:58         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-20 13:48           ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-20 20:47             ` Joel Fernandes
2025-06-15 12:59     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 14:14   ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:29     ` Boqun Feng
2025-06-16 14:42       ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:45         ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 14:52           ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 14:56             ` Daniel Almeida
2025-06-16 15:02               ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-06-16 15:02           ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-06-16 15:08     ` Alexandre Courbot

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