From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Manivannan Sadhasivam <mani@kernel.org>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@oss.qualcomm.com>,
"Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Krishna Chaitanya Chundru" <krishna.chundru@oss.qualcomm.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] PCI: qcom: Switch to bus notifier for enabling ASPM of PCI devices
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2025 14:31:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aHZKCXNu6k0hZbVg@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jmj2aeuguitas75xxos4wbhqjoaniur7psoccfxqniask7yxcu@3azibftfflch>
On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 03:57:12PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 11:33:16AM GMT, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 02:41:23PM +0530, Manivannan Sadhasivam wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2025 at 09:48:30AM GMT, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > > > A problem with this approach is that ASPM will never be enabled (and
> > > > power consumption will be higher) in case an endpoint driver is missing.
> > >
> > > I'm aware of this limiation. But I don't think we should really worry about that
> > > scenario. No one is going to run an OS intentionally with a PCI device and
> > > without the relevant driver. If that happens, it might be due to some issue in
> > > driver loading or the user is doing it intentionally. Such scenarios are short
> > > lived IMO.
> >
> > There may not even be a driver (yet). A user could plug in whatever
> > device in a free slot. I can also imagine someone wanting to blacklist
> > a driver temporarily for whatever reason.
>
> Yes, that's why I said these scenarios are 'shortlived'.
My point is the opposite; that you should not make such assumptions
(e.g. hardware not supported by linux or drivers disabled due to
stability or security concerns).
Johan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-15 12:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-14 18:01 [PATCH 0/2] " Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-14 18:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 7:48 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-15 9:11 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 9:33 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-15 9:46 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-15 10:27 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 12:31 ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2025-07-21 9:32 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-21 10:56 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-21 12:49 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-21 15:45 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-14 18:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] PCI: qcom: Move qcom_pcie_icc_opp_update() to notifier callback Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 7:51 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-15 9:13 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 9:54 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-15 10:36 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-15 10:45 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-16 5:28 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-16 10:33 ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-07-21 9:15 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-16 4:54 ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-16 6:46 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-16 6:53 ` Krishna Chaitanya Chundru
2025-07-16 7:18 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-07-21 9:02 ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-21 10:59 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
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