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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
Cc: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	void@manifault.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, changwoo@igalia.com, hodgesd@meta.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] sched_ext: Guarantee rq lock on scx_bpf_cpu_rq()
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2025 06:52:53 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aJof5QVDR7x-TePI@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cc68722b-75f8-4de8-bf83-0fc1518ad60c@arm.com>

Hello,

On Sun, Aug 10, 2025 at 11:18:52PM +0100, Christian Loehle wrote:
...
> > Yeah, this is not nice, but they would be still broken though, in PATCH 1/3
> > we force schedulers to check for NULL and, if they don't, the verifier
> > won't be happy, so this already breaks existing binaries.
> > 
> > Even if a scheduler performs the NULL check, this change might still cause
> > incorrect behaviors, which can be worse than triggering an error.

I'll revert that change. We shouldn't be introducing breaking changes
without grace period.

> > How about we introduce scx_bpf_locked_cpu_rq() and we still trigger an
> > error in scx_bpf_cpu_rq(), mentioning about the new locked kfunc and
> > scx_bpf_task_acquire_remote_curr()?
> 
> If we still trigger an error in scx_bpf_cpu_rq() what's the difference
> between scx_bpf_cpu_rq() and scx_bpf_cpu_rq_locked() then?
> Just the error message?

Let's add a warning to scx_bpf_cpu_rq() pointing to scx_bpf_cpu_rq_locked(),
update the schedulers, and drop scx_bpf_cpu_rq() in a couple releases.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-11 16:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-05 11:10 [PATCH v3 0/3] sched_ext: Harden scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Christian Loehle
2025-08-05 11:10 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] sched_ext: Mark scx_bpf_cpu_rq as NULL returnable Christian Loehle
2025-08-05 11:10 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] sched_ext: Provide scx_bpf_task_acquire_remote_curr() Christian Loehle
2025-08-09 19:01   ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-11 17:08     ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-05 11:10 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] sched_ext: Guarantee rq lock on scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Christian Loehle
2025-08-09 19:03   ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-10 10:52     ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-10 22:18       ` Christian Loehle
2025-08-11 16:52         ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-08-11 14:35       ` Jake Hillion
2025-08-11 16:51         ` Tejun Heo
2025-08-12 13:31         ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-05 14:33 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] sched_ext: Harden scx_bpf_cpu_rq() Andrea Righi

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