From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Chen Ridong <chenridong@huaweicloud.com>
Cc: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
"Yi Tao" <escape@linux.alibaba.com>,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cgroup: replace global percpu_rwsem with signal_struct->group_rwsem when writing cgroup.procs/threads
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 20:52:05 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aLk3Fftch9lUMJTv@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e05b179-90ec-449b-86a8-796f4a12180a@huaweicloud.com>
Hello,
On Thu, Sep 04, 2025 at 09:40:12AM +0800, Chen Ridong wrote:
...
> > Sorry, I was confused. We no longer need to write lock threadgroup rwsem
> > when CLONE_INTO_CGROUP'ing into an empty cgroup. We do still need
> > cgroup_mutex.
> >
> > 671c11f0619e ("cgroup: Elide write-locking threadgroup_rwsem when updating csses on an empty subtree")
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
>
> I'm still a bit confused. Commit 671c11f0619e ("cgroup: Elide write-locking threadgroup_rwsem when
> updating csses on an empty subtree") only applies to CSS updates. However, cloning with
> CLONE_INTO_CGROUP still requires acquiring the threadgroup_rwsem.
>
> cgroup_can_fork
> cgroup_css_set_fork
> if (kargs->flags & CLONE_INTO_CGROUP)
> cgroup_lock();
> cgroup_threadgroup_change_begin(current);
Ah, yeah, I'm misremembering things, sorry. What got elided in that commit
is down_write of threadgroup_rwsem when enabling controllers on empty
cgroups, which was the only operation which still needed to down_write the
rwsem. Here's an excerpt from the commit message:
After this optimization, the usage pattern of creating a cgroup, enabling
the necessary controllers, and then seeding it with CLONE_INTO_CGROUP and
then removing the cgroup after it becomes empty doesn't need to write-lock
threadgroup_rwsem at all.
It's true that cgroup_threadgroup_change_begin() down_reads the
threadgroup_rwsem but that is a percpu_rwsem whose read operations are
percpu inc/dec. This doesn't add any noticeable overhead or has any
scalability concerns.
So, if you follow the "recommended" workflow, the only remaining possible
scalability bottleneck is cgroup_mutex.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-04 6:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-03 11:11 Yi Tao
2025-09-03 13:14 ` Waiman Long
2025-09-04 1:35 ` Chen Ridong
2025-09-04 4:59 ` escape
2025-09-04 5:02 ` escape
2025-09-03 16:53 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-03 20:03 ` Michal Koutný
2025-09-03 20:45 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-04 1:40 ` Chen Ridong
2025-09-04 6:43 ` escape
2025-09-04 6:52 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-09-04 3:15 ` escape
2025-09-04 6:38 ` escape
2025-09-04 7:28 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-04 8:10 ` escape
2025-09-04 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/1] " Yi Tao
2025-09-04 11:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/1] " Yi Tao
2025-09-04 16:31 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-05 2:16 ` escape
2025-09-05 2:27 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-05 3:44 ` escape
2025-09-05 3:48 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-05 4:30 ` escape
2025-09-05 2:02 ` Chen Ridong
2025-09-05 13:17 ` kernel test robot
2025-09-08 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 0/1] cgroup: replace global percpu_rwsem with per threadgroup resem when writing to cgroup.procs Yi Tao
2025-09-08 10:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/1] " Yi Tao
2025-09-08 16:05 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-08 19:39 ` Waiman Long
2025-09-09 7:55 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] " Yi Tao
2025-09-09 7:55 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] " Yi Tao
2025-09-09 7:55 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] cgroup: retry find task if threadgroup leader changed Yi Tao
2025-09-09 16:59 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-09 7:55 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] cgroup: refactor the cgroup_attach_lock code to make it clearer Yi Tao
2025-09-09 17:00 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-10 6:59 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] cgroup: replace global percpu_rwsem with per threadgroup resem when writing to cgroup.procs Yi Tao
2025-09-10 6:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] cgroup: refactor the cgroup_attach_lock code to make it clearer Yi Tao
2025-09-10 17:26 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-10 6:59 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] cgroup: relocate cgroup_attach_lock within cgroup_procs_write_start Yi Tao
2025-09-10 17:31 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-11 3:22 ` Waiman Long
2025-09-10 6:59 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] cgroup: replace global percpu_rwsem with per threadgroup resem when writing to cgroup.procs Yi Tao
2025-09-10 17:47 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-11 1:52 ` Yi Tao
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