From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
Cc: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>,
sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH sched_ext/for-6.18] sched_ext: Acquire task reference in scx_bpf_cpu_curr()
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 22:45:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMCRzXgDv6PGqLwp@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMCHjFwwjqvKsZBg@slm.duckdns.org>
Hi Tejun,
On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 10:01:16AM -1000, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Andrea.
>
> On Tue, Sep 09, 2025 at 09:57:09PM +0200, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > scx_bpf_cpu_curr() has been introduced to retrieve the current task of a
> > given runqueue, allowing schedulers to interact with that task.
> >
> > The kfunc assumes that it is always called in an RCU context, but this
> > is not always guaranteed and some BPF schedulers can trigger the
> > following warning:
> >
> > WARNING: suspicious RCU usage
> > sched_ext: BPF scheduler "cosmos_1.0.2_gd0e71ca_x86_64_unknown_linux_gnu_debug" enabled
> > 6.17.0-rc1 #1-NixOS Not tainted
> > -----------------------------
> > kernel/sched/ext.c:6415 suspicious rcu_dereference_check() usage!
> >
> > The correct behavior is to acquire a reference to the returned task, so
> > the scheduler can safely access it and then release it with
> > bpf_task_release().
> >
> > Update the kfunc and the corresponding compatibility helper to implement
> > reference acquisition and prevent potential RCU warnings.
>
> I think KF_RCU likely fits better for peeking kernel data structures than
> having to acquire/release them. Can you post the full backtrace? Is it being
> called from a sleepable bpf prog? Or is it that we just need to expand the
> rcu check scope to cover regular rcu, bh and sched? And, everything aside,
> if KF_RCU, should we be tripping on rcu_dereference() in the first place?
For the records, as discussed offline, we should be fine marking the kfunc
as KF_RCU_PROTECTED instead of acquiring the reference to the task.
Right now the kfunc is marked as KF_RCU, which is not really necessary,
because KF_RCU ensures the kfunc *arguments* are either RCU-protected or
trusted.
KF_RCU_PROTECTED, instead, should ensure that the kfunc is called inside an
RCU read-side critical section, that is what we need.
In this way the kfunc can safely return a pointer to the task and sleepable
BPF programs can wrap the call in a bpf_rcu_read_lock/unlock() section.
This should prevent the RCU warning while still letting schedulers safely
use the returned task.
I'll send a new patch with a proper fix.
Thanks,
-Andrea
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-09 20:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-09 19:57 Andrea Righi
2025-09-09 20:01 ` Tejun Heo
2025-09-09 20:45 ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2025-09-18 15:48 ` Christian Loehle
2025-09-18 16:06 ` Andrea Righi
2025-09-18 16:46 ` Christian Loehle
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