From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>
Cc: "Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Hubert Wiśniewski" <hubert.wisniewski.25632@gmail.com>,
"Marek Szyprowski" <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
stable@vger.kernel.org, kernel@pengutronix.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
"Russell King" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
"Xu Yang" <xu.yang_2@nxp.com>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v1 1/1] net: usb: asix: forbid runtime PM to avoid PM/MDIO + RTNL deadlock
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 13:52:38 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aMqhBsH-zaDdO3q8@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0f2fe17b-89bb-4464-890d-0b73ed1cf117@suse.com>
Hi Oliver,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 12:10:48PM +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 17.09.25 11:54, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
>
> > With autosuspend active, resume paths may require calling phylink/phylib
> > (caller must hold RTNL) and doing MDIO I/O. Taking RTNL from a USB PM
> > resume can deadlock (RTNL may already be held), and MDIO can attempt a
> > runtime-wake while the USB PM lock is held. Given the lack of benefit
> > and poor test coverage (autosuspend is usually disabled by default in
> > distros), forbid runtime PM here to avoid these hazards.
>
> This reasoning depends on netif_running() returning false during system resume.
> Is that guaranteed?
You’re right - there is no guarantee that netif_running() is false
during system resume. This change does not rely on that. If my wording
suggested otherwise, I’ll reword the commit message to make it explicit.
1) Runtime PM (autosuspend/autoresume)
Typical chain when user does ip link set dev <if> up while autosuspended:
rtnl_newlink (RTNL held)
-> __dev_open -> usbnet_open
-> usb_autopm_get_interface -> __pm_runtime_resume
-> usb_resume_interface -> asix_resume
Here resume happens synchronously under RTNL (and with USB PM locking). If the
driver then calls phylink/phylib from resume (caller must hold RTNL; MDIO I/O),
we can deadlock or hit PM-lock vs MDIO wake issues.
Patch effect:
I forbid runtime PM per-interface in ax88772_bind(). This removes the
synchronous autoresume path.
2) System suspend/resume
Typical chain:
... dpm_run_callback (workqueue)
-> usb_resume_interface -> asix_resume
This is not under RTNL, and no pm_runtime locking is involved. The patch does
not change this path and makes no assumption about netif_running() here.
If helpful, I can rework the commit message.
Best Regards,
Oleksij
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-17 11:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-09-17 9:54 Oleksij Rempel
2025-09-17 10:10 ` Oliver Neukum
2025-09-17 11:52 ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2025-09-17 12:25 ` Oliver Neukum
2025-09-17 11:26 ` Hubert Wiśniewski
2025-09-17 13:54 ` Alan Stern
2025-09-17 14:31 ` Hubert Wiśniewski
2025-09-17 14:57 ` Alan Stern
2025-09-17 18:58 ` Lukas Wunner
2025-09-22 7:11 ` Oleksij Rempel
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