From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 03/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 10:35:13 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aRVD4fAB7NISgY+8@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <858777470674b2ddd594997e94116167dee81705.camel@intel.com>
On Wed, Nov 12, 2025 at 06:29:11PM +0800, Huang, Kai wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-11-12 at 16:43 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 11, 2025 at 05:23:30PM +0800, Huang, Kai wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2025-08-07 at 17:42 +0800, Yan Zhao wrote:
> > > > -u64 tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid(u64 hkid, struct page *page)
> > > > +u64 tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid(u64 hkid, struct folio *folio,
> > > > + unsigned long start_idx, unsigned long npages)
> > > > {
> > > > + struct page *start = folio_page(folio, start_idx);
> > > > struct tdx_module_args args = {};
> > > > + u64 err;
> > > > +
> > > > + if (start_idx + npages > folio_nr_pages(folio))
> > > > + return TDX_OPERAND_INVALID;
> > > >
> > > > - args.rcx = mk_keyed_paddr(hkid, page);
> > > > + for (unsigned long i = 0; i < npages; i++) {
> > > > + args.rcx = mk_keyed_paddr(hkid, nth_page(start, i));
> > > >
> > >
> > > Just FYI: seems there's a series to remove nth_page() completely:
> > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-1-david@redhat.com/
> > Ah, thanks!
> > Then we can get rid of the "unsigned long i".
> >
> > - for (unsigned long i = 0; i < npages; i++) {
> > - args.rcx = mk_keyed_paddr(hkid, nth_page(start, i));
> > + while (npages--) {
> > + args.rcx = mk_keyed_paddr(hkid, start++);
> >
>
> You may want to be careful about doing '++' on a 'struct page *'. I am not
Before the removing nth_page() series, linux kernel defines nth_page() like
this:
#if defined(CONFIG_SPARSEMEM) && !defined(CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP)
#define nth_page(page,n) pfn_to_page(page_to_pfn((page)) + (n))
#define folio_page_idx(folio, p) (page_to_pfn(p) - folio_pfn(folio))
#else
#define nth_page(page,n) ((page) + (n))
#define folio_page_idx(folio, p) ((p) - &(folio)->page)
#endif
i.e., unless SPARSEMEM without SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP, a folio's page is contiguous.
In David's removing nth_page() series, CONFIG_SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP is auto-selected
along with CONFIG_SPARSEMEM in all architectures but sh.
David further ensures folio pages are continuous even on sh with the problematic
kernel configs (i.e., SPARSEMEM without SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP) [1]:
: Currently, only a single architectures supports ARCH_HAS_GIGANTIC_PAGE
: but not SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP: sh.
:
: Fortunately, the biggest hugetlb size sh supports is 64 MiB
: (HUGETLB_PAGE_SIZE_64MB) and the section size is at least 64 MiB
: (SECTION_SIZE_BITS == 26), so their use case is not degraded.
:
: As folios and memory sections are naturally aligned to their order-2 size
: in memory, consequently a single folio can no longer span multiple memory
: sections on these problematic kernel configs.
So it's safe to assume folio pages are continuous.
[1] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-12-david@redhat.com/
> expert, but I saw below discussion on the thread [*] which led to the series
> to get rid of nth_page():
> > I wish we didn't have nth_page() at all. I really don't think it's a
> > valid operation. It's been around forever, but I think it was broken
> > as introduced, exactly because I don't think you can validly even have
> > allocations that cross section boundaries.
>
> Ordinary buddy allocations cannot exceed a memory section, but hugetlb and
> dax can with gigantic folios ... :(
>
> We had some weird bugs with that, because people keep forgetting that you
> cannot just use page++ unconditionally with such folios.
I found Linus's reply to David [2] :
: On Tue, 5 Aug 2025 at 16:37, David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
: >
: > Ordinary buddy allocations cannot exceed a memory section, but hugetlb and
: > dax can with gigantic folios ... :(
:
: Just turn that code off. Nobody sane cares.
:
: It sounds like people have bent over backwards to fix the insane case
: instead of saying "that's insane, let's not support it".
:
: And yes, "that's insane" is actually fairly recent. It's not that long
: ago that we made SPARSEMEM_VMEMMAP the mandatory option on x86-64. So
: it was all sane in a historical context, but it's not sane any more.
:
: But now it *is* the mandatory option both on x86 and arm64, so I
: really think it's time to get rid of pointless pain points.
:
: (I think powerpc still makes it an option to do sparsemem without
: vmemmap, but it *is* an option there too)
The removing nth_page() series then ensures hugetlb and dax are Ok like changes
in [3]. The series then iterates over all pages in a hugetlb folio by invoking
page++. e.g., [4][5].
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wiYLcax-5THGofwk-SAWYZ1RsP08b+rozXOm0wZRCE9UQ@mail.gmail.com
[3] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-7-david@redhat.com
[4] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-14-david@redhat.com
[5] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-16-david@redhat.com
> So, why not just get the actual page for each index within the loop?
We need to invoke folio_page() to get the actual page.
In [6], the new folio_page() implementation is
static inline struct page *folio_page(struct folio *folio, unsigned long n)
{
return &folio->page + n;
}
So, invoking folio_page() should be equal to page++ in our case.
[6] https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20250901150359.867252-13-david@redhat.com
> [*]:
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAHk-=wiCYfNp4AJLBORU-c7ZyRBUp66W2-Et6cdQ4REx-GyQ_A@mail.gmail.com/T/#m49ba78f5f630b27fa6d3d0737271f047af599c60
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Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 9:39 [RFC PATCH v2 00/23] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/23] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-09-01 8:55 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-01 9:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 16:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-02 17:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 17:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04 9:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:15 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 8:06 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-14 9:14 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-14 9:21 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:23 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 8:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-12 10:29 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 2:35 ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2025-11-13 7:37 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 9:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 15:26 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-14 1:21 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 1:14 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10 1:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 1:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10 1:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-31 19:37 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 10:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/23] KVM: TDX: Introduce tdx_clear_folio() to clear " Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 2:56 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:51 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 11:19 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 2:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 2:09 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 4:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/23] KVM: TDX: Do not hold page refcount on private guest pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:52 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 9:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add split_external_spt hook called during write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:06 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 3:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 8:53 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 9:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/23] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting under write kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:20 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 9:17 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 9:26 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-09 23:49 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-09 23:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-10 0:28 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10 0:50 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 17:16 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10 19:49 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-11 2:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/23] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 3:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 6:57 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:42 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 8:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 11:02 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 11:40 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 6:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:14 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 6:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 8:59 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-18 10:49 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19 3:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/23] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] KVM: TDX: Split and inhibit huge mappings if a VMExit carries level info Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 7:36 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:55 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 1:42 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:26 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 2:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:05 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 7:22 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 1:04 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 2:20 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 9:44 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19 2:58 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 5:51 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-19 6:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:39 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/23] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/23] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/23] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 7:58 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 11:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01 6:21 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13 0:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01 8:00 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13 0:45 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/23] x86/virt/tdx: Do not perform cache flushes unless CLFLUSH_BEFORE_ALLOC is set Yan Zhao
2025-08-11 21:10 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-08-12 6:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 8:16 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:50 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-05 9:05 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-05 15:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-15 6:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/23] KVM: TDX: Pass down pfn to split_external_spt() Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 8:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT in tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in split path Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 9:17 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:58 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-05 6:14 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-08 5:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-11 1:42 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-11 2:36 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT on page split Yan Zhao
2025-08-14 5:31 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-14 18:29 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-18 4:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/23] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:25 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 8:34 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:56 ` Huang, Kai
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