From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Cc: Sagi Shahar <sagis@google.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
<seanjc@google.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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<isaku.yamahata@intel.com>, <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
<binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>, <chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in split path
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 10:36:23 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTouJ0SaFp9pluUN@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH8hk0akN1pbxO95O_AyHf-BDN5tOH-Lbxg-qcTMg-27UQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 05:42:44PM -0800, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 9:51 PM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > index 6b6c46c27390..508b133df903 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > @@ -1591,6 +1591,8 @@ struct kvm_arch {
> > > > #define SPLIT_DESC_CACHE_MIN_NR_OBJECTS (SPTE_ENT_PER_PAGE + 1)
> > > > struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache split_desc_cache;
> > > >
> > > > + struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache pamt_page_cache;
> > > > +
> > >
> > > The latest DPAMT patches use a per-vcpu tdx_prealloc struct to handle
> > > preallocating pages for pamt. I'm wondering if you've considered how
> > > this would work here since some of the calls requiring pamt originate
> > > from user space ioctls and therefore are not associated with a vcpu.
> > I'll use a per-VM tdx_prealloc struct for splitting here, similar to the
> > per-VM pamt_page_cache.
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > index 43dd295b7fd6..91bea25da528 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > @@ -48,6 +48,9 @@ struct kvm_tdx {
> > * Set/unset is protected with kvm->mmu_lock.
> > */
> > bool wait_for_sept_zap;
> > +
> > + spinlock_t external_kvm_split_cache_lock;
> > + struct tdx_prealloc prealloc_split_cache;
> > };
> >
> > > Since the tdx_prealloc is a per vcpu struct there are no race issues
> > > when multiple vcpus need to add pamt pages but here it would be
> > > trickier here because theoretically, multiple threads could split
> > > different pages simultaneously.
> > A spin lock external_kvm_split_cache_lock is introduced to protect the cache
> > enqueue and dequeue.
> > (a) When tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() is invoked under write mmu_lock:
> > - Since cache dequeue is already under write mmu_lock in
> > tdp_mmu_split_huge_page()-->tdx_sept_split_private_spte(), acquiring/
> > releasing another spin lock doesn't matter.
> > - Though the cache enqueue in topup_external_split_cache() is not protected
> > by mmu_lock, protecting enqueue with a spinlock should not reduce
> > concurrency.
>
> Even with the spin lock protecting the cache topup/consumption
> operation, is it possible that one split operation context consumes
> the top-up performed by the other split operation causing failure with
> the subsequent consumptions?
The sequence of check topup, topup, and consume is like this
1. write_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
check topup
2. write_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
topup (get/put split lock to enqueue)
3. write_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
check topup (goto 2 if topup is necessary) (*)
get split lock
consume
put split lock
write_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
Note: due to the "iter.yielded = true" and "continue" after the topup, (see my
posted diff in last reply), consuming does not directly follow the topup. i.e.,
there is step 3.
Due to (*) in step 3, and the consuming is under write mmu_lock, it's impossible
for splits in other threads to consume pages allocated for this split.
> > (b) When tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() is invoked under read mmu_lock:
> > Introducing a new spinlock may hurt concurrency for a brief duration (which
> > is necessary).
Let's talk more about this future potential use cases (i.e., if there're
multiple callers of tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() under shared mmu_lock).
The sequence would be
1. read_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
check topup
2. read_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
topup (get/put split lock to enqueue)
3. read_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
check topup (goto 2 if topup is necessary)
get split lock
check topup (return retry if topup is necessary) (**)
consume
put split lock
read_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
Due to (**) in step 3, and the consuming is under split lock and read mmu_lock,
it's also impossible for splits in other threads to consume pages allocated for
this split.
> > However, there's no known (future) use case for multiple threads invoking
> > tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() on mirror root under shared mmu_lock.
> >
> > For future splitting under shared mmu_lock in the fault path, we'll use
> > the per-vCPU tdx_prealloc instead of the per-VM cache. TDX can leverage
> > kvm_get_running_vcpu() to differentiate between the two caches.
> >
> >
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-11 2:39 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-07 9:39 [RFC PATCH v2 00/23] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/23] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-09-01 8:55 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-01 9:08 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 16:56 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-02 17:37 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 17:45 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04 9:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:15 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 8:06 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-14 9:14 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-14 9:21 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:23 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 8:43 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-12 10:29 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 2:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 7:37 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 9:03 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 15:26 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-14 1:21 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 1:14 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10 1:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 1:30 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10 1:55 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-31 19:37 ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 10:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/23] KVM: TDX: Introduce tdx_clear_folio() to clear " Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 2:56 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:51 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 11:19 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 2:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 2:09 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 4:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/23] KVM: TDX: Do not hold page refcount on private guest pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 9:52 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12 9:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add split_external_spt hook called during write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:06 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 3:16 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 8:53 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 9:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/23] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting under write kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:20 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 5:53 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17 9:17 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17 9:26 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-09 23:49 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-09 23:54 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-10 0:28 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10 0:50 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 17:16 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10 19:49 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-11 2:10 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/23] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 3:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 6:57 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:42 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 8:54 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 11:02 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 11:40 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 6:09 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:14 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 6:30 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 8:59 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-18 10:49 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19 3:41 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:35 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:23 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:31 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/23] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] KVM: TDX: Split and inhibit huge mappings if a VMExit carries level info Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 7:36 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03 9:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:55 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 1:42 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:26 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 2:44 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:05 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 7:22 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 1:04 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18 2:20 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 9:44 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19 2:58 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 5:51 ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-19 6:29 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19 6:39 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/23] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/23] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/23] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 7:58 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:48 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 11:07 ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01 6:21 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13 0:18 ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01 8:00 ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13 0:45 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/23] x86/virt/tdx: Do not perform cache flushes unless CLFLUSH_BEFORE_ALLOC is set Yan Zhao
2025-08-11 21:10 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-08-12 6:37 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 8:16 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:50 ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-05 9:05 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-05 15:41 ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-15 6:05 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/23] KVM: TDX: Pass down pfn to split_external_spt() Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 8:30 ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07 9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT in tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in split path Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 9:17 ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04 9:58 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-05 6:14 ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-08 5:49 ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-11 1:42 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-11 2:36 ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT on page split Yan Zhao
2025-08-14 5:31 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-14 18:29 ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-18 4:19 ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07 9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/23] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:25 ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14 8:34 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18 0:56 ` Huang, Kai
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