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From: Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
To: Vishal Annapurve <vannapurve@google.com>
Cc: Sagi Shahar <sagis@google.com>, <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	<seanjc@google.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<kvm@vger.kernel.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	<rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	<kas@kernel.org>, <tabba@google.com>, <ackerleytng@google.com>,
	<quic_eberman@quicinc.com>, <michael.roth@amd.com>,
	<david@redhat.com>, <vbabka@suse.cz>, <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	<pgonda@google.com>, <zhiquan1.li@intel.com>, <fan.du@intel.com>,
	<jun.miao@intel.com>, <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	<isaku.yamahata@intel.com>, <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	<binbin.wu@linux.intel.com>, <chao.p.peng@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in split path
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 10:36:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aTouJ0SaFp9pluUN@yzhao56-desk.sh.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGtprH8hk0akN1pbxO95O_AyHf-BDN5tOH-Lbxg-qcTMg-27UQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Dec 10, 2025 at 05:42:44PM -0800, Vishal Annapurve wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2025 at 9:51 PM Yan Zhao <yan.y.zhao@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > index 6b6c46c27390..508b133df903 100644
> > > > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/kvm_host.h
> > > > @@ -1591,6 +1591,8 @@ struct kvm_arch {
> > > >  #define SPLIT_DESC_CACHE_MIN_NR_OBJECTS (SPTE_ENT_PER_PAGE + 1)
> > > >         struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache split_desc_cache;
> > > >
> > > > +       struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache pamt_page_cache;
> > > > +
> > >
> > > The latest DPAMT patches use a per-vcpu tdx_prealloc struct to handle
> > > preallocating pages for pamt. I'm wondering if you've considered how
> > > this would work here since some of the calls requiring pamt originate
> > > from user space ioctls and therefore are not associated with a vcpu.
> > I'll use a per-VM tdx_prealloc struct for splitting here, similar to the
> > per-VM pamt_page_cache.
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > index 43dd295b7fd6..91bea25da528 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/vmx/tdx.h
> > @@ -48,6 +48,9 @@ struct kvm_tdx {
> >          * Set/unset is protected with kvm->mmu_lock.
> >          */
> >         bool wait_for_sept_zap;
> > +
> > +       spinlock_t external_kvm_split_cache_lock;
> > +       struct tdx_prealloc prealloc_split_cache;
> >  };
> >
> > > Since the tdx_prealloc is a per vcpu struct there are no race issues
> > > when multiple vcpus need to add pamt pages but here it would be
> > > trickier here because theoretically, multiple threads could split
> > > different pages simultaneously.
> > A spin lock external_kvm_split_cache_lock is introduced to protect the cache
> > enqueue and dequeue.
> > (a) When tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() is invoked under write mmu_lock:
> >     - Since cache dequeue is already under write mmu_lock in
> >       tdp_mmu_split_huge_page()-->tdx_sept_split_private_spte(), acquiring/
> >       releasing another spin lock doesn't matter.
> >     - Though the cache enqueue in topup_external_split_cache() is not protected
> >       by mmu_lock, protecting enqueue with a spinlock should not reduce
> >       concurrency.
> 
> Even with the spin lock protecting the cache topup/consumption
> operation, is it possible that one split operation context consumes
> the top-up performed by the other split operation causing failure with
> the subsequent consumptions?
The sequence of check topup, topup, and consume is like this

1. write_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   check topup

2. write_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   topup (get/put split lock to enqueue)

3. write_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   check topup (goto 2 if topup is necessary)  (*)
   get split lock
   consume
   put split lock
   write_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)

Note: due to the "iter.yielded = true" and "continue" after the topup, (see my
posted diff in last reply), consuming does not directly follow the topup. i.e.,
there is step 3.

Due to (*) in step 3, and the consuming is under write mmu_lock, it's impossible 
for splits in other threads to consume pages allocated for this split.


> > (b) When tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() is invoked under read mmu_lock:
> >     Introducing a new spinlock may hurt concurrency for a brief duration (which
> >     is necessary).
Let's talk more about this future potential use cases (i.e., if there're
multiple callers of tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() under shared mmu_lock).
The sequence would be

1. read_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   check topup

2. read_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   topup (get/put split lock to enqueue)

3. read_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock)
   check topup (goto 2 if topup is necessary)

   get split lock
   check topup (return retry if topup is necessary) (**)
   consume
   put split lock
   read_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock)


Due to  (**) in step 3, and the consuming is under split lock and read mmu_lock,
it's also impossible for splits in other threads to consume pages allocated for
this split.


> >     However, there's no known (future) use case for multiple threads invoking
> >     tdp_mmu_split_huge_pages_root() on mirror root under shared mmu_lock.
> >
> >     For future splitting under shared mmu_lock in the fault path, we'll use
> >     the per-vCPU tdx_prealloc instead of the per-VM cache. TDX can leverage
> >     kvm_get_running_vcpu() to differentiate between the two caches.
> >
> >

  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-11  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-07  9:39 [RFC PATCH v2 00/23] KVM: TDX huge page support for private memory Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_mem_page_aug() to support huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/23] x86/virt/tdx: Add SEAMCALL wrapper tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-09-01  8:55   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-01  9:08     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-02 16:56       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-02 17:37         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 17:45           ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-04  9:31             ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11  9:15       ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12  8:06         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-14  9:14           ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-14  9:21             ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_wbinvd_hkid() to invalidate huge pages Yan Zhao
2025-11-11  9:23   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12  8:43     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-12 10:29       ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13  2:35         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13  7:37           ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13  9:03             ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 15:26             ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-14  1:21               ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10  1:14   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10  1:18     ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10  1:30       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-10  1:55         ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-31 19:37           ` Vishal Annapurve
2026-01-06 10:37             ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/23] KVM: TDX: Introduce tdx_clear_folio() to clear " Yan Zhao
2025-09-02  2:56   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03  9:51     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-03 11:19       ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04  2:53         ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/23] x86/tdx: Enhance tdh_phymem_page_reclaim() to support " Yan Zhao
2025-11-17  2:09   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17  4:05     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/23] KVM: TDX: Do not hold page refcount on private guest pages Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:42 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Disallow page merging (huge page adjustment) for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Alloc external_spt page for mirror page table splitting Yan Zhao
2025-11-11  9:52   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-12  9:29     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/23] KVM: x86/tdp_mmu: Add split_external_spt hook called during write mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:06   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13  3:16     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17  8:53   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17  9:09     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/23] KVM: TDX: Enable huge page splitting under write kvm->mmu_lock Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:20   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13  5:53     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-17  9:17       ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-17  9:26         ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-09 23:49   ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-09 23:54     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-10  0:28       ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10  0:50         ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-10 17:16           ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-10 19:49             ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-12-11  2:10               ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/23] KVM: x86: Reject splitting huge pages under shared mmu_lock for mirror root Yan Zhao
2025-09-03  3:30   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07  9:43 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/23] KVM: x86/mmu: Introduce kvm_split_cross_boundary_leafs() Yan Zhao
2025-09-03  6:57   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03  9:44     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:42   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13  8:54     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-13 11:02       ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-13 11:40         ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14  6:09         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  0:14           ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18  6:30             ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  8:59               ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-18 10:49               ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19  3:41                 ` Yan Zhao
2026-01-06 10:35                   ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19  6:23                 ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19  6:31   ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/23] KVM: x86: Introduce hugepage_set_guest_inhibit() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/23] KVM: TDX: Split and inhibit huge mappings if a VMExit carries level info Yan Zhao
2025-09-03  7:36   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-03  9:37     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 10:55   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14  1:42     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  0:26       ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18  2:44         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:05   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14  7:22     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  1:04       ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-18  2:20         ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  9:44           ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-19  2:58             ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19  5:51   ` Binbin Wu
2025-11-19  6:29     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-19  6:39       ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07  9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/23] KVM: Change the return type of gfn_handler_t() from bool to int Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/23] KVM: x86: Split cross-boundary mirror leafs for KVM_SET_MEMORY_ATTRIBUTES Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/23] KVM: guest_memfd: Split for punch hole and private-to-shared conversion Yan Zhao
2025-09-04  7:58   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04  9:48     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04 11:07       ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01  6:21   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13  0:18     ` Yan Zhao
2025-10-01  8:00   ` Ackerley Tng
2025-10-13  0:45     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/23] x86/virt/tdx: Do not perform cache flushes unless CLFLUSH_BEFORE_ALLOC is set Yan Zhao
2025-08-11 21:10   ` Sagi Shahar
2025-08-12  6:37     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-04  8:16   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04  9:50     ` Yan Zhao
2025-09-05  9:05       ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-05 15:41   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2025-09-15  6:05     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 19/23] KVM: TDX: Pass down pfn to split_external_spt() Yan Zhao
2025-09-04  8:30   ` Binbin Wu
2025-08-07  9:45 ` [RFC PATCH v2 20/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT in tdh_mem_page_demote() Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 21/23] KVM: TDX: Preallocate PAMT pages to be used in split path Yan Zhao
2025-09-04  9:17   ` Binbin Wu
2025-09-04  9:58     ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-05  6:14   ` Sagi Shahar
2025-12-08  5:49     ` Yan Zhao
2025-12-11  1:42       ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-12-11  2:36         ` Yan Zhao [this message]
2025-08-07  9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 22/23] KVM: TDX: Handle Dynamic PAMT on page split Yan Zhao
2025-08-14  5:31   ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-14 18:29     ` Vishal Annapurve
2025-08-18  4:19     ` Yan Zhao
2025-08-07  9:46 ` [RFC PATCH v2 23/23] KVM: TDX: Turn on PG_LEVEL_2M after TD is RUNNABLE Yan Zhao
2025-11-11 11:25   ` Huang, Kai
2025-11-14  8:34     ` Yan Zhao
2025-11-18  0:56       ` Huang, Kai

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