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From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
To: Timur Tabi <ttabi@nvidia.com>, John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 08/12] nova-core: sequencer: Add register opcodes
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2025 10:16:00 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ac85d8be-3cbd-4a51-a627-3a1a9926d801@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <acc56fbb56c3f40119e5a6abf9f13093d7f4c7e7.camel@nvidia.com>

On 11/5/2025 6:19 PM, Timur Tabi wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-11-05 at 13:55 -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
>>> #define nvdev_trace(d,f,a...) nvdev_printk((d), TRACE,   info, f, ##a)
>>> #define nvdev_spam(d,f,a...)  nvdev_printk((d),  SPAM,    dbg, f, ##a)
>>
>> ...and those are unusable, unfortunately. I've tried.
> 
> This works great for me:
> 
> modprobe nouveau dyndbg="+p" modeset=1 debug="gsp=spam" config=NvGspRm=1
> 
> I get all sequencer messages when I boot with these options.
> 
>> ftrace/bpftrace, maybe those are the real way to "trace"...or something
>> other than this.
> 
> You could say the same thing about most dev_dbg() statements.
> 
> I agree that dev_dbg for sequencer commands is excessive, and that implementing new debug levels
> just to get sequencer prints is also excessive.  But Nouveau implement nvkm_trace for a reason.  And
> we all know that because of ? in Rust, NovaCore does a terrible job at telling us where an error
> actually occurred.  So there is a lot of room for improvement.

IMO, the best way to do this is the tracing subsystem. It is the lowest overhead
runtime kernel logging system that I know off, lockless, independent of the
serial console etc, next to no runtime overhead when off, etc.

I recommend we use the tracing subsystem for "trace" and even "spam" level
logging levels for Nova. The brave souls can always ask the tracing subsystem to
also spam to kernel logs if they so wish.

++ Tracing Czar Steven Rostedt as well. Steve, Nova is a new modern Nvidia GPU
driver.

I guess we have to decide how to do this - what kind of tracepoints do we need
for Nova. One use case that just came up is RPC message buffer dumps for
debugging communication with the firmware.

thanks,

 - Joel


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-11-10 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-02 23:59 [PATCH v2 00/12] nova-core: Complete GSP boot and begin RPC communication Joel Fernandes
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] nova-core: falcon: Move waiting until halted to a helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:12   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] nova-core: falcon: Move start functionality into separate helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:13   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] nova-core: falcon: Move mbox functionalities into helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:16   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] nova-core: falcon: Move dma_reset functionality " Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:16   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] nova-core: gsp: Add support for checking if GSP reloaded Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:18   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-05 23:29     ` John Hubbard
2025-11-06  0:26     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] nova-core: Add bindings required by GSP sequencer Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 23:23   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-10 13:39   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-11 22:06     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-12  1:12       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-12  2:53         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] nova-core: Implement the " Joel Fernandes
2025-11-10 13:43   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-11 22:51     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 23:02     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-12  0:42       ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-12  2:57         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] nova-core: sequencer: Add register opcodes Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05  2:50   ` John Hubbard
2025-11-05  3:45     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-05 16:30       ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-05 21:55         ` John Hubbard
2025-11-05 23:19           ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-05 23:27             ` John Hubbard
2025-11-10 15:16             ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2025-11-10 15:16               ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-10 16:59                 ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-10 17:09                   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 18:42               ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-12  0:45                 ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-10 13:50   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-11 23:39     ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] nova-core: sequencer: Add delay opcode support Joel Fernandes
2025-11-10 13:51   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] nova-core: sequencer: Implement basic core operations Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 19:04   ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] nova-core: sequencer: Implement core resume operation Joel Fernandes
2025-11-02 23:59 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Wait for gsp initialization to complete Joel Fernandes
2025-11-10 13:51   ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-03 19:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] nova-core: Complete GSP boot and begin RPC communication Timur Tabi
2025-11-03 19:35   ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-03 19:54     ` Timur Tabi
2025-11-04 23:26   ` [PATCH v2 13/12] nova-core: sequencer: Refactor run() to handle unknown messages Joel Fernandes
2025-11-10 13:52     ` Alexandre Courbot
2025-11-06 23:11   ` [PATCH v3 00/14] nova-core: Complete GSP boot and begin RPC communication Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 01/14] gpu: nova-core: falcon: Move waiting until halted to a helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 02/14] gpu: nova-core: falcon: Move start functionality into separate helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 03/14] gpu: nova-core: falcon: Move mbox functionalities into helper Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 04/14] gpu: nova-core: falcon: Move dma_reset functionality " Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 05/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Add support for checking if GSP reloaded Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 06/14] gpu: nova-core: Add bindings required by GSP sequencer Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:43       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-13  0:48         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 07/14] gpu: nova-core: Implement the " Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 20:57       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-13  1:24         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 08/14] gpu: nova-core: sequencer: Add register opcodes Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:09       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 09/14] gpu: nova-core: sequencer: Add delay opcode support Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:11       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 10/14] gpu: nova-core: sequencer: Implement basic core operations Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:12       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-13  0:49         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 11/14] gpu: nova-core: sequencer: Implement core resume operation Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:44       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 12/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Wait for gsp initialization to complete Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:47       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 13/14] gpu: nova-core: sequencer: Refactor run() to handle unknown messages Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 21:49       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-06 23:11     ` [PATCH v3 14/14] gpu: nova-core: gsp: Retrieve GSP static info to gather GPU information Joel Fernandes
2025-11-11 22:02       ` Lyude Paul
2025-11-12 20:22         ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-12 20:35           ` Joel Fernandes
2025-11-06  2:06 ` [PATCH v2 00/12] nova-core: Complete GSP boot and begin RPC communication John Hubbard
2025-11-11 20:24 ` Lyude Paul

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