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From: Roland Dreier <rdreier@cisco.com>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@hmh.eng.br>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, "Wang\,
	Shane" <shane.wang@intel.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Cihula\, Joseph" <joseph.cihula@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] x86/txt for v2.6.32
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2009 13:44:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ada4oqgp5qx.fsf@cisco.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091003203619.GA27182@khazad-dum.debian.net> (Henrique de Moraes Holschuh's message of "Sat, 3 Oct 2009 17:36:20 -0300")


 > > > So I modify the RAM content so that BIOS does not think measured
 > > > environment existed before suspend?

 > And it is ridiculously easy to pull off, too:
 > http://www.engadget.com/2008/02/21/cold-boot-disk-encryption-attack-is-shockingly-effective/
 > 
 > Shows the attack being used to read sensitive keys, but you can use it also
 > to *modify* system running state (it will be more difficult, as you need to
 > remove and replace the RAM while on S3 instead of S5, but it should be
 > doable by someone who knows what he is doing).

I believe the whole point of this TXT / S3 handling is that the resume
from S3 will then be able to detect that the contents of RAM have been
modified while the system was asleep.

TXT simply produces a reasonably trustworthy measurement of system
state.  If you modify RAM while the system is asleep, then you will not
be able to produce a measurement showing an unmodified system state.

 - R.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-03 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-14 20:51 H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-26  9:56 ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-26 21:44   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-28 21:02     ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-28 21:07       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-09-28 21:11         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-09-28 21:17           ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-29  6:34             ` Shane Wang
2009-09-29 17:13               ` Pavel Machek
2009-09-29 17:19                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-09-30  2:16                   ` Wang, Shane
2009-09-30  6:54                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-02 17:02                       ` Wang, Shane
2009-10-02 17:18                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-10-03 15:00                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-10-03 20:19                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-03 20:36                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-10-03 20:44                             ` Roland Dreier [this message]
2009-10-06  8:12                               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-07 16:47                                 ` Cihula, Joseph
2009-10-17 19:28                                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-03 21:10                             ` Arjan van de Ven
2009-10-03 21:56                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh

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