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From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	"Wieczor-Retman, Maciej" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	"Box, David E" <david.e.box@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"patches@lists.linux.dev" <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 11/14] mpam,x86/resctrl: Resolve INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY symbols at runtime
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 15:09:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aingld8Hoz-x5MTj@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1dd1858-a6d1-4760-9181-ca30de3a1510@intel.com>

On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 10:58:26AM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On 6/10/26 10:24 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >> I see many "if (pmt_module)" checks ... intel_aet_pre_mount() even calls it twice. Are they all necessary?
> >> It creates the impression that the PMT module can be yanked from AET at any time, something which
> >> intel_aet_unregister_enumeration() seems to allow. I was hoping that there can be some guarantee
> >> that if PMT is available during pre_mount() it will continue to be available at least until
> >> unmount() completes.
> > 
> > pmt_module is NULL if CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y ... i.e. built-in to the kernel.
> > 
> > In that case it obviously can't go away, and doesn't need module_get()/module_put().
> > There's no special case for this. try_module_get() takes a fault on NULL dereference.
> > 
> > When CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=m then the get/put should stop it going away
> > (I tried rmmod while resctrl mounted and it fails to remove as expected).
> 
> Have you tried "unbind" via sysfs?

I need to resolve the unbind issue. Looks like I may have to extend the
registration interface to pass a pointer to the device so I can call
get_device() to prevent such an unbind operation while the file system
is mounted in addition to try_get_module() to stop the module from being
unloaded.

Or talk David into marking the driver with "device_driver::suppress_bind_attrs"
so that unbind isn't available for the user.

But that's separate from the issue of whether all those "if (pmt_module)" tests are needed.

> Even so, my comment was in response to the code you shared. Let me paste it
> back and highlight what I meant with the "many pmt_module checks":
> 
> > /*
> >  * Track whether pmt_telemetry enumeration succeeded during mount for use
> >  * during unmount.
> >  */
> > static bool pmt_in_use;
> > 
> > bool intel_aet_pre_mount(void)
> > {
> > 	bool ret;
> > 
> > 	guard(mutex)(&aet_register_lock);
> > 	if (!get_feature || !put_feature)
> > 		return false;
> > 
> > 	if (pmt_module) {
> 
> Here is an "if (pmt_module)" check ... can it ever be false? If so
> then the rest of this function becomes very confusing (more below ...)

Yes. pmt_module is NULL when the kernel is built with CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y

I.e. the value of THIS_MODULE in the pmt_telemetry code is NULL when it
isn't a module, but is built-in to the kernel.

> 
> > 		if (!try_module_get(pmt_module))
> > 			return false;
> > 	}
> > 
> > 	ret = aet_get_events();
> 
> aet_get_events() can thus seemingly be called when pmt_module is unset?
> 
> > 
> > 	if (!ret) {
> > 		if (pmt_module)
> 
> Can pmt_module be unset here?

If it was NULL earlier (because CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y) then it
will be NULL forever. If it was non-NULL above, then it must still be
non-NULL here because changes are protected but the aet_register_lock
mutex.
> 

> > 			module_put(pmt_module);
> > 	} else {
> > 		pmt_in_use = true;
> 
> So pmt_in_use could be true if pmt_module is unset? Confusing, no?

I'm using "pmt", it just isn't a module. I'm using the built-in kernel
copy of the code.

Do you have a better suggestion for the name of "pmt_in_use" that makes
it more obvious that it doesn't refer to the loaded state of the module?

Or maybe change the "pmt_module" variable name? Suggestions welcome.

> > 	}
> > 
> > 	return ret;
> > }
> > 
> > void intel_aet_unmount(void)
> > {
> > 	struct event_group **peg;
> > 
> > 	guard(mutex)(&aet_register_lock);
> > 	if (!pmt_in_use)
> > 		return;
> > 
> > 	for_each_event_group(peg) {
> > 		if ((*peg)->pfg) {
> > 			struct event_group *e = *peg;
> > 
> > 			for (int j = 0; j < e->num_events; j++)
> > 				resctrl_disable_mon_event(e->evts[j].id);
> > 			put_feature((*peg)->pfg);
> > 			(*peg)->pfg = NULL;
> > 		}
> > 	}
> > 	if (pmt_module)
> 
> So this implies that pmt_module could be unset here ... if that is the
> case then that means that the PMT module disappeared while resctrl was
> mounted which is exactly what this work aims to prevent, no?

As above. If CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y then pmt_module is always NULL.
The module didn't disappear, there never was a module. It was built-in
the whole time.

> 
> > 		module_put(pmt_module);
> > 	pmt_in_use = false;
> 
> ... if pmt_module was unset then how could pmt_in_use ever be true?

It can be set in the case where the kernel was built with CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y
> 
> > }
> 
> Reinette

-Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-10 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-01 19:56 [PATCH v7 00/14] Allow AET to use PMT as loadable module Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] fs/resctrl: Move functions to avoid forward references in subsequent fixes Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] fs/resctrl: Free mon_data structures on rdt_get_tree() failure Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] fs/resctrl: Fix use-after-free during unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] fs/resctrl: Fix deadlock for errors during mount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] x86/resctrl: Stop setting event_group::force_off on RMID shortage Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 16:51     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:01         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] fs/resctrl: Add interface to disable a monitor event Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 17:21     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:56         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 22:26           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 23:19             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] x86/resctrl: Maintain a count of enabled monitor features Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 18:46     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:03       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:27         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] fs,x86,mpam/resctrl: Handle change in number of RMIDs on each mount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 21:58     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:35       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:40         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] x86/resctrl: Add PMT registration API for AET enumeration callbacks Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Register enumeration functions with resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 22:11     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-18 21:15     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-22 15:46       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-22 23:00         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-23 15:45           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-23 18:24             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] mpam,x86/resctrl: Resolve INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY symbols at runtime Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10  0:08     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 15:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 15:49         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:21           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:34             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:46               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 17:24                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 17:58                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 22:09                     ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2026-06-11 18:01                       ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 22:27                           ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-12 18:04                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] fs/resctrl: Call architecture hooks for every mount/unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:16     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] x86/resctrl: Simplify Kconfig options for resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] Documentation/filesystems/resctrl: Add footnote for telemetry fstab mount caveat Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:19     ` Luck, Tony

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