From: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
"Wieczor-Retman, Maciej" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
"Chen, Yu C" <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
"Box, David E" <david.e.box@intel.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 11/14] mpam,x86/resctrl: Resolve INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY symbols at runtime
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 15:09:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aingld8Hoz-x5MTj@agluck-desk3> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1dd1858-a6d1-4760-9181-ca30de3a1510@intel.com>
On Wed, Jun 10, 2026 at 10:58:26AM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> On 6/10/26 10:24 AM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> >> I see many "if (pmt_module)" checks ... intel_aet_pre_mount() even calls it twice. Are they all necessary?
> >> It creates the impression that the PMT module can be yanked from AET at any time, something which
> >> intel_aet_unregister_enumeration() seems to allow. I was hoping that there can be some guarantee
> >> that if PMT is available during pre_mount() it will continue to be available at least until
> >> unmount() completes.
> >
> > pmt_module is NULL if CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y ... i.e. built-in to the kernel.
> >
> > In that case it obviously can't go away, and doesn't need module_get()/module_put().
> > There's no special case for this. try_module_get() takes a fault on NULL dereference.
> >
> > When CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=m then the get/put should stop it going away
> > (I tried rmmod while resctrl mounted and it fails to remove as expected).
>
> Have you tried "unbind" via sysfs?
I need to resolve the unbind issue. Looks like I may have to extend the
registration interface to pass a pointer to the device so I can call
get_device() to prevent such an unbind operation while the file system
is mounted in addition to try_get_module() to stop the module from being
unloaded.
Or talk David into marking the driver with "device_driver::suppress_bind_attrs"
so that unbind isn't available for the user.
But that's separate from the issue of whether all those "if (pmt_module)" tests are needed.
> Even so, my comment was in response to the code you shared. Let me paste it
> back and highlight what I meant with the "many pmt_module checks":
>
> > /*
> > * Track whether pmt_telemetry enumeration succeeded during mount for use
> > * during unmount.
> > */
> > static bool pmt_in_use;
> >
> > bool intel_aet_pre_mount(void)
> > {
> > bool ret;
> >
> > guard(mutex)(&aet_register_lock);
> > if (!get_feature || !put_feature)
> > return false;
> >
> > if (pmt_module) {
>
> Here is an "if (pmt_module)" check ... can it ever be false? If so
> then the rest of this function becomes very confusing (more below ...)
Yes. pmt_module is NULL when the kernel is built with CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y
I.e. the value of THIS_MODULE in the pmt_telemetry code is NULL when it
isn't a module, but is built-in to the kernel.
>
> > if (!try_module_get(pmt_module))
> > return false;
> > }
> >
> > ret = aet_get_events();
>
> aet_get_events() can thus seemingly be called when pmt_module is unset?
>
> >
> > if (!ret) {
> > if (pmt_module)
>
> Can pmt_module be unset here?
If it was NULL earlier (because CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y) then it
will be NULL forever. If it was non-NULL above, then it must still be
non-NULL here because changes are protected but the aet_register_lock
mutex.
>
> > module_put(pmt_module);
> > } else {
> > pmt_in_use = true;
>
> So pmt_in_use could be true if pmt_module is unset? Confusing, no?
I'm using "pmt", it just isn't a module. I'm using the built-in kernel
copy of the code.
Do you have a better suggestion for the name of "pmt_in_use" that makes
it more obvious that it doesn't refer to the loaded state of the module?
Or maybe change the "pmt_module" variable name? Suggestions welcome.
> > }
> >
> > return ret;
> > }
> >
> > void intel_aet_unmount(void)
> > {
> > struct event_group **peg;
> >
> > guard(mutex)(&aet_register_lock);
> > if (!pmt_in_use)
> > return;
> >
> > for_each_event_group(peg) {
> > if ((*peg)->pfg) {
> > struct event_group *e = *peg;
> >
> > for (int j = 0; j < e->num_events; j++)
> > resctrl_disable_mon_event(e->evts[j].id);
> > put_feature((*peg)->pfg);
> > (*peg)->pfg = NULL;
> > }
> > }
> > if (pmt_module)
>
> So this implies that pmt_module could be unset here ... if that is the
> case then that means that the PMT module disappeared while resctrl was
> mounted which is exactly what this work aims to prevent, no?
As above. If CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y then pmt_module is always NULL.
The module didn't disappear, there never was a module. It was built-in
the whole time.
>
> > module_put(pmt_module);
> > pmt_in_use = false;
>
> ... if pmt_module was unset then how could pmt_in_use ever be true?
It can be set in the case where the kernel was built with CONFIG_INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY=y
>
> > }
>
> Reinette
-Tony
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-10 22:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-01 19:56 [PATCH v7 00/14] Allow AET to use PMT as loadable module Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] fs/resctrl: Move functions to avoid forward references in subsequent fixes Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] fs/resctrl: Free mon_data structures on rdt_get_tree() failure Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] fs/resctrl: Fix use-after-free during unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] fs/resctrl: Fix deadlock for errors during mount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] x86/resctrl: Stop setting event_group::force_off on RMID shortage Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:16 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 16:51 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:01 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] fs/resctrl: Add interface to disable a monitor event Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 17:21 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:56 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 22:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 23:19 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] x86/resctrl: Maintain a count of enabled monitor features Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 18:46 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:03 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:27 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] fs,x86,mpam/resctrl: Handle change in number of RMIDs on each mount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 21:58 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:35 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:40 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] x86/resctrl: Add PMT registration API for AET enumeration callbacks Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Register enumeration functions with resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 22:11 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-18 21:15 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-22 15:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-22 23:00 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-23 15:45 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-23 18:24 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] mpam,x86/resctrl: Resolve INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY symbols at runtime Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:25 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 0:08 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 15:27 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 15:49 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:21 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:34 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:46 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 17:24 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 17:58 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 22:09 ` Luck, Tony [this message]
2026-06-11 18:01 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 22:27 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-12 18:04 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] fs/resctrl: Call architecture hooks for every mount/unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:16 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] x86/resctrl: Simplify Kconfig options for resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] Documentation/filesystems/resctrl: Add footnote for telemetry fstab mount caveat Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:19 ` Luck, Tony
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