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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
To: "Luck, Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>
Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghuay@nvidia.com>,
	Maciej Wieczor-Retman <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
	Peter Newman <peternewman@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Babu Moger <babu.moger@amd.com>,
	"Drew Fustini" <dfustini@baylibre.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>, Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	David E Box <david.e.box@intel.com>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@lists.linux.dev>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 10/14] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Register enumeration functions with resctrl
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2026 08:45:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fddd44b4-a3d3-4c37-8a01-2c5b55c36657@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajm-jVzj7TUeJkY-@agluck-desk3>

Hi Tony,

On 6/22/26 4:00 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2026 at 08:46:31AM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>> On 6/18/26 2:15 PM, Luck, Tony wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jun 08, 2026 at 04:22:27PM -0700, Reinette Chatre wrote:
>>>> On 6/1/26 12:56 PM, Tony Luck wrote:
>>>>> INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY is a loadable module, but resctrl is built-in and cannot
>>>>> call PMT functions directly.  Register the telemetry enumeration function
>>>>> pointers at pmt_telemetry module init, and unregister them at module exit.
>>>>
>>>> To ensure intel_pmt_get_regions_by_feature() has access to complete data, could
>>>> it be more accurate to register at the end of PMT's .probe() and similarly
>>>> unregister during .remove()?
>>>
>>> I agreed with this. But on further reflection I'm going to dissent.
>>>
>>> There are multiple devices (at least one per socket). So .probe() is
>>> called for each. Registering with resctrl at the end of .probe() sets
>>
>> Thanks for highlighting this.
>>
>>> up for a race with a mount of the resctrl file system:
>>>
>>> modprobe				mount
>>> .init()
>>>  auxiliary_driver_register()
>>>   .probe() for socket 0 device		rdt_get_tree()
>>>     intel_aet_register_enumeration()	  resctrl_arch_pre_mount()
>>>       mutex_lock(aet_register_lock)	    intel_aet_pre_mount()
>>> 	get_feature = get;		      mutex_lock(aet_register_lock)
>>> 	...					... blocks ...
>>>       mutex_unlock(aet_register_lock)
>>> 						... runs ...
>>>    .probe() for socket 1 device			Does enumeration with socket 0 complete
>>> 						but races with socket 1 .probe()
>>
>> Could you please elaborate the details being the "race with socket 1"? Wouldn't
>> moving registration to init() experience the same? That is, if registered during init() then
>> at the time of resctrl mount socket 0's probe could be complete but not socket 1's? The
>> move to .init() has additional scenario where resctrl mounts when neither socket's
>> probe has completed.
> 
> See '*' paragraph below. At end of pmt_telemetry .init() all probes have run and completed.
> 
>> Are you referring to how user needs to remount resctrl to obtain all of AET that
>> the doc patch refers to or is the race more serious?
>>  
>>> I may keep the unregister call in the .remove() because as soon as the first
>>> device goes away, resctrl can't usefully run. So it seems a good idea to
>>> handle that right away.
>>
>> The "resctrl can't usefully run" is not clear to me since resctrl mount seems to be
>> ok to let mount succeed without all devices probed (per above). So it is ok to mount
>> resctrl with partial telemetry enumeration but once all is enumerated this will not
>> be supported?
> 
> No. Mount shouldn't run unless all devices have been probed.
> 
>>>
>>> I will provide details on the reason for the asymmetric .init() vs. .remove()
>>> in the commit comment (and in code).
>>>
>>> Ok?
>>
>> I seem to be missing a few details to understand this solution.
> 
> For AET telemetry to be useful all aggregators must be enumerated.
> Running with some subset would only provide data for some subset of
> the cores on a system.
> 
> So now I'm trending back to registering in module .init() after
> all probes have run, and unregistering in .exit() before doing
> anything else.
> 
> Some experimentation has shown that the asynchronous part enumeration
> is just the intel_vsec driver kicking of auxilliary device probes.
> 
>  * Looking just at the pmt_telemetry .init() routine, the .probe()
>  * calls for each device are run sequentially and synchronously. So
>  * when .init() returns all of the AET enumeration is complete.

If I understand correctly this is because pmt_telemetry relies on 
device_driver::probe_type initialized with the default (PROBE_DEFAULT_STRATEGY)
that can be overruled by a user space wanting to "boot faster".
Should pmt_telemetry's probe_type be set to PROBE_FORCE_SYNCHRONOUS to support
this new requirement from resctrl?

> 
> Today I dug into the problem that mount initiated automatically
> by systemd from an entry in /etc/fstab occurs before pmt_telemetry
> is loaded. I asked AI (Gemini) if there was a way to let systemd
> know it must wait for enumeration to complete before invoking
> mount(2). There are MANY options to do this. After cycling through
> several that either didn't work, or seemed overly complex or fragile,
> I've settled on this one. I can add to the resctrl.rst documentation.
> 
> It uses a systemd service to mount resctrl triggered by a udev rule on the
> load of the pmt_telemetry module.
> 
> The udev rule:
> $ cat /etc/udev/rules.d/99-rmid-telemetry.rules
> SUBSYSTEM=="module", KERNEL=="intel_pmt", ACTION=="add", RUN+="/usr/bin/systemctl start mount-resctrl.service"
> 
> The systemd service descriptor:
> $ cat /etc/systemd/system/mount-resctrl.service
> [Unit]
> Description=Mount resctrl pseudo-filesystem after Intel PMT loads
> After=local-fs.target
> 
> [Service]
> Type=oneshot
> RemainAfterExit=yes
> ExecStart=/usr/bin/mount -t resctrl resctrl /sys/fs/resctrl
> 
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
> 
This looks very helpful. Thank you very much for investigating this.

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2026-06-23 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-01 19:56 [PATCH v7 00/14] Allow AET to use PMT as loadable module Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 01/14] fs/resctrl: Move functions to avoid forward references in subsequent fixes Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 02/14] fs/resctrl: Free mon_data structures on rdt_get_tree() failure Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 03/14] fs/resctrl: Fix use-after-free during unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 04/14] fs/resctrl: Fix deadlock for errors during mount Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 05/14] x86/resctrl: Stop setting event_group::force_off on RMID shortage Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:16   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 16:51     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:01         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 06/14] fs/resctrl: Add interface to disable a monitor event Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 17:21     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:02       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 20:56         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 22:26           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 23:19             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 07/14] x86/resctrl: Maintain a count of enabled monitor features Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:18   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 18:46     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:03       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:27         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 08/14] fs,x86,mpam/resctrl: Handle change in number of RMIDs on each mount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 21:58     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-09 23:35       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 17:40         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 09/14] x86/resctrl: Add PMT registration API for AET enumeration callbacks Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:21   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 10/14] platform/x86/intel/pmt: Register enumeration functions with resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:22   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-09 22:11     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-18 21:15     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-22 15:46       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-22 23:00         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-23 15:45           ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2026-06-23 18:24             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 11/14] mpam,x86/resctrl: Resolve INTEL_PMT_TELEMETRY symbols at runtime Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:25   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10  0:08     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 15:27       ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 15:49         ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:21           ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:34             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 16:46               ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 17:24                 ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-10 17:58                   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 22:09                     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 18:01                       ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-11 21:22                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-11 22:27                           ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-12 18:04                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 12/14] fs/resctrl: Call architecture hooks for every mount/unmount Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:16     ` Luck, Tony
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 13/14] x86/resctrl: Simplify Kconfig options for resctrl Tony Luck
2026-06-01 19:56 ` [PATCH v7 14/14] Documentation/filesystems/resctrl: Add footnote for telemetry fstab mount caveat Tony Luck
2026-06-08 23:26   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-06-10 16:19     ` Luck, Tony

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