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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Zhenzhong Duan <zhenzhong.duan@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Srinivas Eeda <srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi_pm: Reduce PMTMR counter read contention
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 15:26:56 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1901311525360.8200@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <019e583c-7bcb-c234-200c-fcdb6c49fbb0@oracle.com>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:

> On 2019/1/30 16:06, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
> > 
> > > On a large system with many CPUs, using PMTMR as the clock source can
> > > have a significant impact on the overall system performance because
> > > of the following reasons:
> > >   1) There is a single PMTMR counter shared by all the CPUs.
> > >   2) PMTMR counter reading is a very slow operation.
> > > 
> > > Using PMTMR as the default clock source may happen when, for example,
> > > the TSC clock calibration exceeds the allowable tolerance and HPET
> > > disabled by nohpet on kernel command line. Sometimes the performance
> > 
> > The question is why would anyone disable HPET on a larger machine when the
> > TSC is wreckaged?
> 
> There may be broken hardware where TSC is wreckaged.

I know that.

> > I'm not against the change per se, but I really want to understand why we
> > need all the complexity for something which should never be used in a real
> > world deployment.
> 
> Hmm, it's a strong word of "never be used". Customers may happen to use
> nohpet(sanity test?) and report bug to us. Sometimes they does report a bug
> that reproduce with their customed config. There may also be BIOS setting HPET
> disabled.

And because the customer MAY do completely nonsensical things (and there
are a lot more than the HPET) the kernel has to handle all of them?

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-31 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-01-22  7:23 Zhenzhong Duan
2019-01-30  8:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-01-31  3:50   ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-01-31 14:26     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2019-02-02  2:52       ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-02-02  7:55         ` Kin Cho
2019-02-10 21:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-18  3:48           ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-02-28  3:33             ` Zhenzhong Duan

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