From: Kin Cho <kin.cho@oracle.com>
To: zhenzhong.duan@oracle.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
Srinivas Eeda <srinivas.eeda@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi_pm: Reduce PMTMR counter read contention
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2019 23:55:55 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b307e679-8a12-1eff-595d-2c39e6c6fb6a@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <853e8cf6-aba9-0200-8e39-e362848399ba@oracle.com>
Zhenzhong,
The machine is running test this weekend, I'll try your simple fix next
week.
All,
We're not aware of a specific customer need for acpi_pm/PMTMR,
but if we must keep acpi_pm/PMTMR in the kernel, let's fix it so it
actually works, even on machine like ours.
On our hardware currently it's broken both during clocksource selection
and as a permanent clocksource.
Thanks,
-kin
On 2/1/19 6:52 PM, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
> On 2019/1/31 22:26, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 Jan 2019, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>>
>>> On 2019/1/30 16:06, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 22 Jan 2019, Zhenzhong Duan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On a large system with many CPUs, using PMTMR as the clock source can
>>>>> have a significant impact on the overall system performance because
>>>>> of the following reasons:
>>>>> 1) There is a single PMTMR counter shared by all the CPUs.
>>>>> 2) PMTMR counter reading is a very slow operation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Using PMTMR as the default clock source may happen when, for example,
>>>>> the TSC clock calibration exceeds the allowable tolerance and HPET
>>>>> disabled by nohpet on kernel command line. Sometimes the performance
>>>>
>>>> The question is why would anyone disable HPET on a larger machine
>>>> when the
>>>> TSC is wreckaged?
>>>
>>> There may be broken hardware where TSC is wreckaged.
>>
>> I know that.
>>
>>>> I'm not against the change per se, but I really want to understand
>>>> why we
>>>> need all the complexity for something which should never be used in
>>>> a real
>>>> world deployment.
>>>
>>> Hmm, it's a strong word of "never be used". Customers may happen to use
>>> nohpet(sanity test?) and report bug to us. Sometimes they does
>>> report a bug
>>> that reproduce with their customed config. There may also be BIOS
>>> setting HPET
>>> disabled.
>>
>> And because the customer MAY do completely nonsensical things (and there
>> are a lot more than the HPET) the kernel has to handle all of them?
>
> Ok, then. I don't have more suggestion to convince you. I just think
> of a simple fix as below. I think it will work for both hpet and
> pmtmr. We will test it when the env is available.
>
> --- a/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
> +++ b/kernel/time/timekeeping.c
> @@ -1353,6 +1353,7 @@ static int change_clocksource(void *data)
>
> write_seqcount_end(&tk_core.seq);
> raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(&timekeeper_lock, flags);
> + tick_clock_notify();
>
> return 0;
> }
> @@ -1371,7 +1372,6 @@ int timekeeping_notify(struct clocksource *clock)
> if (tk->tkr_mono.clock == clock)
> return 0;
> stop_machine(change_clocksource, clock, NULL);
> - tick_clock_notify();
> return tk->tkr_mono.clock == clock ? 0 : -1;
> }
>
>
> Thanks
> Zhenzhong
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-02-02 7:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-22 7:23 Zhenzhong Duan
2019-01-30 8:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-01-31 3:50 ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-01-31 14:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-02 2:52 ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-02-02 7:55 ` Kin Cho [this message]
2019-02-10 21:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-02-18 3:48 ` Zhenzhong Duan
2019-02-28 3:33 ` Zhenzhong Duan
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