From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Mark Lord <lkml@rtr.ca>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>, Zach Brown <zach.brown@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@zip.com.au>,
Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
Evgeniy Polyakov <johnpol@2ka.mipt.ru>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Suparna Bhattacharya <suparna@in.ibm.com>,
Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: Syslets, Threadlets, generic AIO support, v6
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 13:31:27 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0705301327090.26602@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465DD97D.9010807@cosmosbay.com>
On Wed, 30 May 2007, Eric Dumazet wrote:
>
> So yes, reimplement sendfile() should help to find last splice() bugs, and as
> a bonus it could add non blocking disk io, (O_NONBLOCK on input file ->
> socket)
Well, to get those kinds of advantages, you'd have to use splice directly,
since sendfile() hasn't supported nonblocking disk IO, and the interface
doesn't really allow for it.
In fact, since nonblocking accesses require also some *polling* method,
and we don't have that for files, I suspect the best option for those
things is to simply mix AIO and splice(). AIO tends to be the right thing
for disk waits (read: short, often cached), and if we can improve AIO
performance for the cached accesses (which is exactly what the threadlets
should hopefully allow us to do), I would seriously suggest going that
route.
But the pure "use splice to _implement_ sendfile()" thing is worth doing
for all the other reasons, even if nonblocking file access is not likely
one of them.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-30 20:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-29 21:27 Zach Brown
2007-05-29 21:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-29 22:49 ` Zach Brown
2007-05-29 22:16 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-29 23:09 ` Zach Brown
2007-05-29 23:20 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 1:11 ` Dave Jones
2007-05-30 17:08 ` Zach Brown
2007-05-30 7:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 7:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 7:31 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 8:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 8:51 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-30 9:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 15:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 15:39 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 19:40 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 19:55 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 20:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 20:21 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 20:31 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-30 20:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 21:53 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-30 21:31 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 21:16 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 21:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 21:47 ` Ulrich Drepper
2007-05-30 22:06 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 21:48 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 22:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-31 6:13 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-31 7:35 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-31 9:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-31 9:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-31 10:41 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-31 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-31 9:32 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-31 9:34 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-30 22:09 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-30 21:51 ` David M. Lloyd
2007-05-30 22:24 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-30 21:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-30 21:39 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 21:36 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-30 21:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 21:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 21:54 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-05-30 22:27 ` Matt Mackall
2007-05-30 22:38 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-05-30 8:32 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-30 8:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 9:30 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-05-30 9:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-05-30 13:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 13:20 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 15:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 16:09 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-30 17:57 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-30 19:05 ` Mark Lord
2007-05-30 19:10 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-30 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-05-30 19:32 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-30 20:07 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-30 20:31 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-05-30 20:46 ` Eric Dumazet
2007-05-30 19:52 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-30 7:40 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-30 16:55 ` Zach Brown
2007-05-30 17:33 ` Jens Axboe
2007-05-31 8:15 Albert Cahalan
2007-05-31 9:50 ` Ingo Molnar
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