From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Pekka Enberg <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <clameter@sgi.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jeremy@goop.org
Subject: Re: SLUB: Return ZERO_SIZE_PTR for kmalloc(0)
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2007 09:48:00 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.98.0706040945200.23741@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84144f020706040937xb06535em543fa887ad65ee8f@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>
> Then we might as well return your regular NULL pointer for zero-length
> allocations as you can't do anything sane with ZERO_SIZE_PTR either.
No. NULL really _is_ special.
We use NULL in tons of places for saying "we haven't allocated anything at
all".
That's *not* the same as saying "we have initialized this pointer, it just
happens to point to a zero-sized object".
Two *totally* different things. I don't understand why people mix them up.
We literally have code that tests pointers for NULL to determine if the
subsystem has been initialized.
In other words: YOU MUST NOT RETURN NULL FOR A "SUCCESSFUL POINTER
ALLOCATION", regardless of the size.
Yeah, yeah, I realize that the C library traditionally allows it, and user
space is used to it, but it's still wrong and stupid. We can do so much
better.
When malloc() returns NULL, it means that it failed.
When a pointer is NULL, it means that it doesn't exist.
And ZERO_SIZE_PTR is _neither_ of those cases!
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-04 16:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-02 1:37 Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 2:09 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-06-02 2:15 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 2:21 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-06-02 2:54 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-02 3:06 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 3:41 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-02 4:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 4:31 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-02 4:45 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-02 4:54 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-03 16:17 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 17:59 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-03 16:15 ` Matt Mackall
2007-06-04 14:44 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 15:08 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 16:16 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 16:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 16:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-04 16:32 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-04 16:37 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 16:38 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-04 16:43 ` Roland Dreier
2007-06-04 17:02 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 16:48 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-06-04 18:22 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2007-06-04 17:20 ` Alan Cox
2007-06-04 17:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-04 18:05 ` William Lee Irwin III
2007-06-04 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-06-04 19:01 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 19:13 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 19:14 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 19:25 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-04 22:39 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-04 22:53 ` Andrew Morton
2007-06-04 23:09 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-05 5:27 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-05 17:23 ` Christoph Lameter
2007-06-05 8:50 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-05 12:07 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-06-05 12:54 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-05 13:58 ` John Anthony Kazos Jr.
2007-06-05 14:32 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-05 19:07 ` Pekka Enberg
2007-06-05 14:40 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-06-05 14:56 ` Rene Herman
2007-06-06 21:26 ` Pavel Machek
2007-06-06 21:58 ` Rene Herman
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