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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: Markus <lists4me@web.de>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Dmitry Adamushko <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>,
	Srivatsa Vaddagiri <vatsa@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:37:16 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0707171329370.27353@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070717200929.GA2426@elte.hu>



On Tue, 17 Jul 2007, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> i think the problem starts here:
> 
>   11902 1184699865.141939 read(3, "", 32) = 0 <0.000007>

Well, it's preceded by a poll() that says that it has a POLLHUP event, so 
that socket would seem to have simply been closed from the other end. 
There's also a huge amount of select() calls showing the same thing 
(except since it's just the input side, you cannot tell that it's 
POLLHUP).

Don't ask me *why*, though. It's preceded by

	..
	11902 1184699848.615201 read(3, 0x7fffb5b9c8b0, 32) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) <0.000009>
	11902 1184699848.615252 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 <0.009307>
	11902 1184699848.624614 read(3, "\1 \303!\0\0\0\0\4\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0b\340T\0\0\0\0\0", 32) = 32 <0.000011>

.. got data ..

	11902 1184699848.624710 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 <0.000009>
	11902 1184699848.624762 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 <0.000048>

.. ok, nothing more..

	11902 1184699848.624866 select(10, [3 4 5 7 9], [], [], NULL) = 1 (in [3]) <16.495008>
	11902 1184699865.119950 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 <0.000006>

16+ seconds pass, now it's marked as readable, but returns zero bytes of 
data: the other end closed it.

Tons of unnecessary and stupid sequences of:

	11902 1184699865.119988 select(10, [3 4 5 7 9], [], [], NULL) = 1 (in [3]) <0.000007>
	11902 1184699865.120031 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 <0.000005>
	..

and then finally:

	...
	11902 1184699865.141809 poll([{fd=3, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN|POLLHUP}], 1, 0) = 1 <0.000005>
	11902 1184699865.141838 ioctl(3, FIONREAD, [0]) = 0 <0.000005>
	11902 1184699865.141939 read(3, "", 32) = 0 <0.000007>

ie now konqueror noticed that it was *really* closed, and read the EOF.

But why does that happen? And why would the scheduler have *anything* to 
do with this? No idea. Maybe timing. Maybe the time.c changes. Dunno.

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-07-17 20:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-06 17:33 Ingo Molnar
2007-07-08 17:46 ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-09 22:39   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 21:44     ` Willy Tarreau
2007-07-10  8:08 ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-11 17:26   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-11 20:55     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-12 12:41       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-13 21:19       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-16 21:34         ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-16 21:55           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17  4:22             ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-17  5:01             ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17  7:45               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 11:17                 ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17 17:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-18  1:24                     ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-18  6:19                       ` Ian Kent
2007-07-17 16:30                 ` Chuck Ebbert
2007-07-17 21:16                 ` David Schwartz
2007-07-18  5:59                   ` Ian Kent
2007-07-18  7:54                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-18 13:50                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-18 17:23                       ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 16:03                 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-07-18 17:31                   ` Ian Kent
2007-07-18 21:37                   ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19  8:53                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 14:32                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:06                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19 17:10                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:17                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-19 17:26                         ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19 17:42                           ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-20  2:32                       ` Bill Davidsen
2007-07-19  8:16                   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-14 11:34 ` Markus
2007-07-14 15:11   ` Markus
2007-07-16  9:41     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 17:59       ` Markus
2007-07-17  7:37         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 13:06           ` Markus
2007-07-17 17:06             ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 17:13               ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 19:42               ` Markus
2007-07-17 20:09                 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 20:37                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-07-17 20:43                     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-17 22:03                       ` Markus
2007-07-20 22:26                       ` Markus
2007-07-22 11:59                         ` konqueror suddenly vanishing, "konqueror: Fatal IO error: client killed" Ingo Molnar
2007-07-22 14:26                           ` Markus
2007-08-09 17:34                       ` [patch] CFS scheduler, -v19 Markus
2007-08-10  7:46                         ` Ingo Molnar
2007-08-14 17:15                           ` Markus
2007-10-17  0:02                       ` Markus
2007-07-14 17:19 ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-07-15  5:25   ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-15 12:53     ` Markus
2007-07-15 19:46       ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-15 21:11         ` Markus
2007-07-16  6:42           ` Mike Galbraith
2007-07-16  8:00     ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16  9:17   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-07-16 11:10     ` Ed Tomlinson
2007-07-08 20:51 Al Boldi

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