From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: akpm <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linux Kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linuxppc-dev list <linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] synchronize_irq needs a barrier
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 19:12:20 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710171906150.26902@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1192670742.12879.5.camel@pasglop>
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
>
> + smp_mb();
> while (desc->status & IRQ_INPROGRESS)
> cpu_relax();
So, what exactly does it protect against? At a minimum, this needs a
comment in the changelog, and probably preferably in the source code too.
The thing is, synchronize_irq() can only protect against interrupts that
are *already*running* on another CPU, and the caller must have made sure
that no new interrupts are coming in (or at least that whatever new
interrupts that come in will not pick up a certain piece of data).
So I can imagine that the smb_mb() is there so that the caller - who has
cleared some list or done something like that - will have any preceding
writes that it did be serialized with actually checking the old state of
"desc->status".
Fair enough - I can see that a smp_mb() is useful. But I think it needs
documenting as such, and preferably with an example of how this actually
happened in the first place (do you have one?)
The synchronize_irq() users that are really fundamental (ie the irq
datastructures themselves) all should use the irq descriptor spinlock, and
should *not* be needing any of this, since they would have serialized with
whoever actually set the IRQ_INPROGRESS bit in the first place.
So in *that* sense, I think the memory barrier is useless, and I can't
make up my mind whether it's good or bad. Which is why I'd really like to
have an example scenario spelled out where it makes a difference..
Ok?
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-10-18 2:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-18 1:25 Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 1:45 ` Andrew Morton
2007-10-18 1:55 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 2:12 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-10-18 2:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 2:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 14:56 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-18 22:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 22:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18 23:17 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-18 23:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-18 23:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-19 2:32 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 2:52 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-19 3:28 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 4:49 ` Nick Piggin
2007-10-19 2:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 3:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 4:11 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-19 4:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-19 5:53 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 4:20 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 4:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-19 4:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-19 4:48 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 4:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-21 21:10 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-23 3:26 ` [IRQ]: Fix synchronize_irq races with IRQ handler Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 5:36 ` [NET]: Fix possible dev_deactivate race condition Herbert Xu
2007-10-19 5:38 ` David Miller
2007-10-19 7:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2007-10-19 9:29 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-18 14:35 ` [PATCH] synchronize_irq needs a barrier Herbert Xu
2007-10-18 21:35 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 2:02 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-20 2:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 3:10 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-20 4:06 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 4:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 4:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 3:37 ` Herbert Xu
2007-10-20 3:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 4:24 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-20 5:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 5:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-20 5:46 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-10-20 6:06 ` Maxim Levitsky
2007-10-20 6:13 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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