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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Carlos Corbacho <carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Len Brown <lenb@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	pm list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Suspend code ordering (again) (was: Re: x86: Increase PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to 0x1500 to fix nForce 4 suspend-to-RAM)
Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 20:11:58 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.0.9999.0712252006330.21557@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200712251713.13223.rjw@sisk.pl>



On Tue, 25 Dec 2007, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>
> the ACPI specification between versions 1.0x and 2.0.  Namely, while ACPI
> 2.0 and later wants us to put devices into low power states before calling
> _PTS, ACPI 1.0x wants us to do that after calling _PTS.  Since we're following
> the 2.0 and later specifications right now, we're not doing the right thing for
> the (strictly) ACPI 1.0x-compliant systems.
> 
> We ought to be able to fix things on the high level, by calling _PTS earlier on
> systems that claim to be ACPI 1.0x-compliant.  That will require us to modify
> the generic susped code quite a bit and will need to be tested for some time.

That's insane. Are you really saying that ACPI wants totally different 
orderings for different versions of the spec? And does Windows really do 
that?

Please don't make lots of modifications to the generic suspend code. The 
only thing that is worth doing is to just have a firmware callback before 
the "device_suspend()" thing (and then on a ACPI-1.0 system, call _PTS 
*there*), and on an ACPI-2.0 system, call _PTS *after* device_suspend().

Still, the fact is, some (most, I think) drivers *should* put themselves 
into D3 only in "late_suspend()", so if ACPI-2.0 really expects _PTS to be 
called after that, we're just screwed. That's when the system is really 
down, interrupts disabled etc, we don't want to call anything but the 
final ACPI "turn us off" stuff there!

			Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-26  4:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <200712231419.40207.carlos@strangeworlds.co.uk>
2007-12-23 16:30 ` x86: Increase PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to 0x1500 to fix nForce 4 suspend-to-RAM Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-23 17:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-23 18:00   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23 22:20     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-23 23:12       ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-24  0:09         ` Carlos Corbacho
2007-12-24  0:56           ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-24  1:14             ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-24  3:05               ` Carlos Corbacho
2007-12-24 13:44                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-24 18:34                   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-24 21:53                     ` Carlos Corbacho
2007-12-25 16:13                     ` Suspend code ordering (again) (was: Re: x86: Increase PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to 0x1500 to fix nForce 4 suspend-to-RAM) Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-26  4:11                       ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2007-12-26 15:07                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2007-12-26 15:24                           ` Suspend code ordering (again) Alexey Starikovskiy
2007-12-26 17:50                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2007-12-25 12:12   ` x86: Increase PCIBIOS_MIN_IO to 0x1500 to fix nForce 4 suspend-to-RAM Pavel Machek
2007-12-25 12:28     ` Carlos Corbacho
2007-12-23 17:53 ` [Bug 9528] " Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23 17:58   ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23 19:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2007-12-23 19:29     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-12-23 20:43   ` Yinghai Lu

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