From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
"Roland McGrath" <roland@redhat.com>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Elias Oltmanns" <eo@nebensachen.de>,
"Török Edwin" <edwintorok@gmail.com>,
"Arjan van de Ven" <arjan@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86_64: fix delayed signals
Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 10:41:39 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0807121030260.2875@woody.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mykn2sos.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008, Andi Kleen wrote:
>
> Linus, the fact that is not explained by your theory is why
> Ctrl-Z+kill works but Ctrl-C doesn't.
Umm. Read the reports more carefully. Many of the complaints are about ^Z
too.
More-over, ^Z and ^C are very different from an app standpoint. A _lot_ of
applications block or catch ^C (SIGINT), while doing the same for ^Z
(SIGTSTP) and SIGTERM is much less common (but possible: a tty sends
SIGTSTP, which is blockable, not SIGSTOP, which is not).
The reason? It's quite common to catch ^C in order to do cleanup. The
common handler case is that you catch SIGINT, do cleanup, and then kill
yourself with SIGINT in order to make it _look_ like you reacted directly
to the ^C.
So there are a _lot_ of loads where ^C will not kill things immediately,
but ^Z + SIGKILL (or SIGTERM, the default for "sig") will.
Try doing a "yum update", for example.
Or use 'git', for that matter. git does exactly that kind of thing:
catches SIGINT and removes temp-files etc. But if you kill it manually
using some "stronger" signal (and using ^Z to get the shell back before
you do that is obviously one way), that won't happen.
And trust me, git is not at all unusual in this respect.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-07-12 17:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-07-10 21:50 Roland McGrath
2008-07-10 22:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-10 22:42 ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-10 22:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-10 23:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 0:52 ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-11 1:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 1:27 ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-11 1:48 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 2:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 2:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 2:26 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 12:24 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-11 5:46 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-11 11:13 ` Török Edwin
2008-07-11 12:24 ` Elias Oltmanns
2008-07-11 17:58 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 18:07 ` Roland McGrath
2008-07-11 18:16 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 18:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 18:10 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 18:31 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 22:53 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-12 10:33 ` Török Edwin
2008-07-11 20:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-11 23:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 10:32 ` Török Edwin
2008-07-12 13:42 ` Török Edwin
2008-07-12 14:55 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-12 18:00 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 18:15 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-07-12 18:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 17:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 20:26 ` Török Edwin
2008-07-12 20:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-12 20:57 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-07-13 10:46 ` Oleg Nesterov
2008-07-13 12:34 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-07-13 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:45 ` Peter T. Breuer
2008-07-12 12:27 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-12 17:41 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2008-07-13 9:38 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-13 17:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-07-13 18:59 ` Andi Kleen
2008-07-13 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
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