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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@lwfinger.net>,
	WANG Cong <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] base firmware: Fix BUG from sysfs attributes change in commit a2db6842873c8e5a70652f278d469128cb52db70
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:46:46 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1003132131470.3719@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1fx43zhbd.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>



On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> It also only affects those fairly rare lockdep users as well, and the only
> affect is to throw a nasty warning message.  Isn't lockdep all about throwing
> nasty warning messages?

Hmm. The report has that "BUG: " message in it (and in the subject line), 
but you're right - it ends up being just a warning, not actually a real 
BUG() (which is a machine killer).

So yeah - it's not as bad as I thought. Sorry.

[ And that "BUG:" in turn seems to be due to Ingo for some reason wanting 
  to confuse BUG_ON() messages (which have that "BUG: " prefix thing) with 
  whatever warning conditions he adds.

  Our warnings used to have that bug too (see commit 8f53b6fcc4: "Don't 
  call a warnign a bug. It's a warning.").

  Ingo: can we agree to not put "BUG: " messages in warnings, ok? It may 
  be a bug (lower-case) that triggers them, but that whole "BUG()" thing 
  has it's own semantics with rather more serious consequences than some 
  warning that lets things continue.

  So I - and I suspect others - react rather more strongly to "BUG:" than 
  to "WARNING:" or to just some regular innocuous message without the
  associations of the machine likely being dead as a result. ]

				Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-14  5:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-13 19:36 Larry Finger
2010-03-13 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-13 22:39   ` Jiri Kosina
2010-03-13 22:57     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-14  3:57       ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-14  5:46         ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-03-14  6:59           ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-14 17:20             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-14 18:11           ` Greg KH
2010-03-14 18:30             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-14 18:38               ` Greg KH
2010-03-14 10:49         ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-14 18:04           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-14 18:07             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-14 19:08             ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-03-15  0:48               ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-15  0:20             ` Wolfram Sang
2010-03-15  0:29             ` [PATCH] init dynamic bin_attribute structures Wolfram Sang
2010-03-15 10:00               ` Jiri Kosina
2010-03-15 10:12                 ` [rtc-linux] " Wolfram Sang
2010-03-15 18:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-13 22:55   ` [PATCH] base firmware: Fix BUG from sysfs attributes change in commit a2db6842873c8e5a70652f278d469128cb52db70 Larry Finger

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