From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] Preparation for BKL'ed ioctl removal
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:15:23 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004241510530.3739@i5.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004242240.51176.arnd@arndb.de>
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
>
> With CONFIG_BKL disabled, we gain a few cyles in the scheduler,
That has _nothing_ to do with the ioctl's though.
Stop mixing things up.
There are two totally independent issues:
- making the BKL ioctl's be explicit and findable
- eventually getting rid of the BKL entirely
and I think you guys are totally mixing things up, and making things WORSE
in the process.
The notion of having _three_ different "ioctl()" function pointers just
makes me want to gag. And there is absolutely _zero_ reason for it. Tjhere
is no way in hell that we want to have every subsystem maintainer try to
independently do their own ioctl's. Most of the drivers that have those
things are basically unmaintained or on the back burner anyway.
So don't make the current ugly ioctl situation worse. Not even as a
stop-gap, because there is absolutely _zero_ upside to making yet another
new crazy temporary ioctl interface.
And don't try to conflate the issue of ioctl and BKL. There are still
code-paths that do lock_kernel() without the ioctl's, so the whole ioctl
renaming has _zero_ to do with CONFIG_BKL.
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-24 22:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-16 3:56 [GIT PULL] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-22 0:48 ` [GIT PULL v2] " Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-24 15:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-24 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-24 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-24 19:54 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-24 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-24 20:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-24 22:15 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2010-04-25 17:39 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-25 17:49 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-25 18:05 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-26 8:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 18:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-26 19:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 20:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-26 22:23 ` [PATCH 0/6] Push down BKL into device drivers Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 9:14 ` John Kacur
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 1/6] dvb: push down BKL into ioctl functions Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 2/6] scsi: " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 3/6] isdn: " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 4/6] staging: " Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 18:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-27 18:33 ` Greg KH
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 5/6] v4l: always use unlocked_ioctl Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 22:24 ` [PATCH 6/6] drivers: push down BKL into various drivers Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-26 20:42 ` [GIT PULL v2] Preparation for BKL'ed ioctl removal David Miller
2010-04-26 22:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-26 22:32 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-04-26 23:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-26 7:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-26 11:29 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-04-27 9:25 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-28 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-04-28 13:37 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-28 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
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