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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Salman Qazi <sqazi@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix a complex race in hrtimer code.
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:54:20 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1010121848061.2909@localhost6.localdomain6> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikgvZuT5+sgPyD-1j1gG+-pC0+4hpXQj7Z_ZuYE@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010, Salman Qazi wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 1:49 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 2010, Salman Qazi wrote:
> >> /* There are other issues, like deadlocks between multiple hrtimer_start observed
> >>  * calls, at least in 2.6.34 that this lock works around.  Will look into
> >>  * those later.
> >
> > Well, we don't have to work around callsites not serializing themself
> > in the core code, right ?
> 
> I assumed that the semantics were that hrtimer_starts are serialized
> with respect to each other and with respect to cancels.   You seem to
> disagree.

Yes, I disagree. The code makes sure that cancel/start does not
conflict with a running callback, but it's not responsible for random
code fiddling with the same timer, really.

The outcome of random start/cancel operations on two cpus of the same
timer is just unpredictible, so where is the point of caring about
that in the core code ?

> In any case, I have to rerun that test without this lock with the
> patch present.  It's possible that it was a symptom of the same bug
> that we just didn't observe in production.

Which bug did you observe in production and what's the code which is
triggering this?

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-12 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08  2:33 Salman Qazi
2010-10-08 18:01 ` Salman Qazi
2010-10-11 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-11 23:18   ` Salman Qazi
2010-10-11 23:23     ` Andrew Morton
2010-10-11 23:43       ` Salman Qazi
2010-10-12  0:02         ` Salman Qazi
2010-10-12  8:49           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-12 14:25             ` Salman Qazi
2010-10-14 11:34               ` [tip:timers/urgent] hrtimer: Preserve timer state in remove_hrtimer() tip-bot for Salman Qazi
2010-10-14 13:23                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-10-14 13:34                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-12 14:28             ` [PATCH] Fix a complex race in hrtimer code Salman Qazi
2010-10-12 16:54               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2010-10-12 17:38                 ` Salman Qazi

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