From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, "Luck\\,
Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, "Yu\\,
Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, H Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>,
"Siddha\\, Suresh B" <suresh.b.siddha@intel.com>, "Mallick\\,
Asit K" <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
Arjan Dan De Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>,
linux-pm <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] x86/cpu hotplug: Wake up offline CPU via mwait or nmi
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 23:15:16 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1206052305370.3086@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2ipf5jx27.fsf@firstfloor.org>
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> writes:
> >
> > Vs. the interrupt/timer/other crap madness:
> >
> > - We really don't want to have an interrupt balancer in the kernel
> > again, but we need a mechanism to prevent the user space balancer
> > trainwreck from ruining the power saving party.
>
> Why not? I think the kernel is exactly the right place for it.
> It's essentially a scheduling problem. Scheduling in user space
> is not a good idea.
No argument about scheduling in user space. Though the real problem is
where do you draw the line between mechanism and policy?
> With MSI-X the drivers just want a static setting. User space
> shouldn't mess with it.
>
> Some of the workarounds for user space messing with it (like that
> interrupt rmap code) are really bad and just a workaround for doing the
> scheduling in the wrong place.
>
> For dynamic changes it should indeed by part of scheduling,
> following similar rules, with only high level policy input
> from userland.
I'd be happy to see a patch which implements all of that and avoids
the pitfalls of the old in kernel irq balancer along with the short
comings of the user space one.
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-05 21:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-04 18:17 Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt: Add wakeup_cpu_via_init kernel parameter help Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86/head_32.S/head_64.S: Kernel entry code after waking up offline CPU via mwait or nmi Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 3/6] x86/smpboot.c: Wake " Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:58 ` Suresh Siddha
2012-06-04 19:35 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 4/6] x86/apic_flat_64.c: Wakeup function in apic calls mwait or nmi method Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 5/6] x86/x2apic_cluster.c: Wakeup function in x2apic_cluster " Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` [PATCH 6/6] x86/x2apic_phys.c: Wakeup function in x2apic_phys " Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 18:17 ` Fenghua Yu
2012-06-04 20:11 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86/cpu hotplug: Wake up offline CPU via mwait or nmi Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-04 20:18 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-04 22:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-04 20:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 0:40 ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-05 1:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-05 7:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 14:17 ` Alan Stern
2012-06-05 15:27 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-05 7:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 16:02 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-06-05 16:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 16:18 ` Yu, Fenghua
2012-06-05 16:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 17:44 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-05 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 19:43 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-05 19:45 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 19:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 19:51 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-05 19:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 20:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-05 21:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 22:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-06 8:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 8:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 22:12 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-06 8:40 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 8:42 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 14:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-06 15:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 23:20 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-08 9:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 8:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 14:41 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-06 15:23 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-06 15:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 15:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-06 16:59 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-05 21:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-05 21:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 22:00 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-06 12:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-06 14:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-06-05 19:51 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 20:58 ` Andi Kleen
2012-06-05 21:15 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2012-06-05 21:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-05 23:13 ` Andi Kleen
2012-06-06 1:52 ` Arjan van de Ven
2012-06-05 18:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 19:54 ` Luck, Tony
2012-06-05 19:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-05 13:41 ` [PATCH] kthread: Implement park/unpark facility Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-05 14:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-05 14:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-07 0:04 ` H. Peter Anvin
2012-06-10 5:40 ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-11 9:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2012-06-12 0:23 ` Rusty Russell
2012-06-05 15:35 ` [PATCH 0/6] x86/cpu hotplug: Wake up offline CPU via mwait or nmi Jiang Liu
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