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From: Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de>
To: mtk.manpages@gmail.com
Cc: 7eggert@gmx.de, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: dup2() vs dup3() inconsistency when
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:19:31 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.0.999.0810101514510.5758@be1.lrz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cfd18e0f0810100459n13ae6fbfx53861f423114f4f7@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 1:42 PM, Bodo Eggert <7eggert@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Well, as long as we are fixing the dup3() interface in the way that Al
> >> and Ulrich have suggested, what about another fix:
> >>
> >> give an error if newfd is already open, thus forcing the user to do an
> >> explicit close
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> This silent close in dup2() is an implementation blemish.  Why not eliminate
> >> it?
> >
> > I think it might be usefull:
> > Thread B does some logging to fd 42
> > Thread A switches the logfile by creating a new file, writing a header and
> > then does dup3(fd, 42, O_WRONLY|O_APPEND|O_CLOEXEC); close(fd);
> 
> I don't know the details of the kernel locks here, so perhaps this is
> a naive question: but, as things stand is there not the potential for
> some nasty race if one thread is writing to fd 42 at the same time as
> another thread does a dup2(fd, 42)?

I strongly hope there would not be any ...

> > (Off cause this is not yet implemented, O_RDONLY would give some problems,
> >  O_CLOEXEC alone might be better done while open()ing the file, ... but you
> >  get the idea.)
> >
> >
> > BTW: I think dup3(fd, -1, flags) should use the file descriptor dup() would
> > return. Or should there be a dupf(fd, flags) syscall instead?
> 
> If one did this, maybe it would be better to have an extra flag that
> said: "use the first free file descriptor >= newfd", thus giving the
> more general functionality like fcntl(F_DUPFD).

I think you are right. I thought about something similar, too, but was 
distracted enough to not think about the connection.
-- 
Funny quotes:
10. Nothing is fool proof to a talented fool.

  reply	other threads:[~2008-10-10 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2008-10-10 11:42             ` Bodo Eggert
2008-10-10 11:59               ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-10 13:19                 ` Bodo Eggert [this message]
2008-10-09 12:10 Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-09 17:21 ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-09 20:31   ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-10-09 20:43     ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-09 20:52       ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-10-09 20:57         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-10-09 21:04           ` Ulrich Drepper
2008-10-10  5:04           ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-10 12:09             ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-10-10 12:15               ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-10 13:02                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-10-10 13:15                   ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-10 13:31                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-10-10  5:01     ` Michael Kerrisk
2008-10-10 13:43     ` Heikki Orsila

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