From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] livepatch: add (un)patch hooks
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:15:16 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1707181310550.24826@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170714014640.nhoowbrleu6kdka2@treble>
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:10:00AM -0400, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> > When the livepatch core executes klp_(un)patch_object, call out to a
> > livepatch-module specified array of callback hooks. These hooks provide
> > a notification mechanism for livepatch modules when klp_objects are
> > (un)patching. This may be most interesting when another kernel module
> > is a klp_object target and the livepatch module needs to execute code
> > after the target is loaded, but before its module_init code is run.
>
> And it's also useful for vmlinux. Patch module load/unload is separate
> from enable/disable, so the module init/exit functions can't be used for
> patch-specific changes (e.g., global data changes).
I admit that I don't understand this, which is probably the reason for my
question. Why do we need it when we have module notifiers and module
init/exit functions in the kernel? Petr described different possible
scenarios and they can be solved either in init/exit function of a patch
module or in a module notifier which the patch module can register.
If there is a difference, it should be mentioned in the documentation and
in the changelog.
> > The patch-hook executes right before patching objects and the
> > unpatch-hook executes right after unpatching objects.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
>
> Thanks for posting it. We found this to be a useful feature in the
> past, not quite as useful as shadow data, but still good to have for
> certain cases.
>
> Instead of "load hooks" I think it would be more accurate to call them
> "enable/disable hooks". (Maybe "callbacks" would be better than
> "hooks"? Not sure...)
>
> Even better, we might want to be specific: "pre enable hooks" and "post
> disable hooks". (Or "pre patch hooks" and "post unpatch hooks"?)
> Because we might eventually decide we need the corresponding "post
> enable hooks" and "pre disable hooks" as well.
And this is what I'm worried about. I think we don't want to have hooks
sprinkled here and there in the code.
Thanks,
Miroslav
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-18 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-12 14:09 [PATCH] livepatch hooks, revisted Joe Lawrence
2017-07-12 14:10 ` [PATCH] livepatch: add (un)patch hooks Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14 1:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-14 13:23 ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14 13:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-18 11:10 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 11:15 ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2017-07-19 2:08 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 15:29 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 19:11 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-17 15:51 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 18:59 ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-20 14:36 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 20:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 4:17 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 4:20 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 4:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 15:50 ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-20 17:04 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-27 20:43 ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-27 21:36 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 18:08 ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-28 18:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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