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From: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jessica Yu <jeyu@kernel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] livepatch: add (un)patch hooks
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:15:16 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1707181310550.24826@pobox.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170714014640.nhoowbrleu6kdka2@treble>

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:10:00AM -0400, Joe Lawrence wrote:
> > When the livepatch core executes klp_(un)patch_object, call out to a
> > livepatch-module specified array of callback hooks.  These hooks provide
> > a notification mechanism for livepatch modules when klp_objects are
> > (un)patching. This may be most interesting when another kernel module
> > is a klp_object target and the livepatch module needs to execute code
> > after the target is loaded, but before its module_init code is run.
> 
> And it's also useful for vmlinux.  Patch module load/unload is separate
> from enable/disable, so the module init/exit functions can't be used for
> patch-specific changes (e.g., global data changes).

I admit that I don't understand this, which is probably the reason for my 
question. Why do we need it when we have module notifiers and module 
init/exit functions in the kernel? Petr described different possible 
scenarios and they can be solved either in init/exit function of a patch 
module or in a module notifier which the patch module can register.

If there is a difference, it should be mentioned in the documentation and 
in the changelog.
 
> > The patch-hook executes right before patching objects and the
> > unpatch-hook executes right after unpatching objects.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Joe Lawrence <joe.lawrence@redhat.com>
> 
> Thanks for posting it.  We found this to be a useful feature in the
> past, not quite as useful as shadow data, but still good to have for
> certain cases.
> 
> Instead of "load hooks" I think it would be more accurate to call them
> "enable/disable hooks".  (Maybe "callbacks" would be better than
> "hooks"?  Not sure...)
> 
> Even better, we might want to be specific: "pre enable hooks" and "post
> disable hooks".  (Or "pre patch hooks" and "post unpatch hooks"?)
> Because we might eventually decide we need the corresponding "post
> enable hooks" and "pre disable hooks" as well.

And this is what I'm worried about. I think we don't want to have hooks 
sprinkled here and there in the code.

Thanks,
Miroslav

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-18 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12 14:09 [PATCH] livepatch hooks, revisted Joe Lawrence
2017-07-12 14:10 ` [PATCH] livepatch: add (un)patch hooks Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14  1:46   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-14 13:23     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-14 13:46       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-18 11:10         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-18 11:15     ` Miroslav Benes [this message]
2017-07-19  2:08       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-19 15:29         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 19:11         ` Miroslav Benes
2017-07-17 15:51   ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 18:59     ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-20 14:36       ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-19 20:49     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20  4:17       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20  4:20         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20  4:30         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-20 15:50         ` Petr Mladek
2017-07-20 17:04           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-27 20:43         ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-27 21:36           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-07-28 18:08             ` Joe Lawrence
2017-07-28 18:29               ` Josh Poimboeuf

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