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From: Frank Li <Frank.li@oss.nxp.com>
To: Koichiro Den <den@valinux.co.jp>
Cc: "Manivannan Sadhasivam" <mani@kernel.org>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>, "Frank Li" <Frank.Li@kernel.org>,
	"Gustavo Pimentel" <Gustavo.Pimentel@synopsys.com>,
	"Kees Cook" <kees@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Serge Semin" <fancer.lancer@gmail.com>,
	"Cai Huoqing" <cai.huoqing@linux.dev>,
	"Niklas Cassel" <cassel@kernel.org>,
	"Devendra K Verma" <devendra.verma@amd.com>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 10/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Prepare LL kicks for event serialization
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 10:43:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amjOPbm174THHNlR@SMW015318> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <uq7qe5ptxr4uekuxouqlir2ijusfxq66zffad7k7ypflfn2ezk@vxs2jonoc3hl>

On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 02:38:16PM +0900, Koichiro Den wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2026 at 04:18:01PM -0400, Frank Li wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2026 at 02:03:09AM +0900, Koichiro Den wrote:
> > > Both eDMA and HDMA perform the same remote LL read-back immediately
> > > before writing the doorbell register.
> > >
> > > A later patch serializes each LL doorbell write against IRQ event
> > > capture with a raw spinlock. Keeping the read-back in the provider
> > > callback would hold that lock across a remote read. Move the common
> > > read-back into a core kick helper, where it can run before the
> > > serialized section, and leave dw_edma_core_ch_maybe_doorbell() to decide
> > > whether a kick is needed.
> > >
> > > No functional change.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Koichiro Den <den@valinux.co.jp>
> > > ---
> > > Changes in v3:
> > >   - New prep patch split from "Centralize LL doorbell decisions" to keep
> > >     that policy change focused and the remote LL read-back outside the
> > >     event lock added later. (Sashiko)
> > >
> > >  drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-core.c    | 20 +++++++++++++++++++-
> > >  drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-v0-core.c | 16 ----------------
> > >  drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-hdma-v0-core.c | 16 ----------------
> > >  3 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 33 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-core.c b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-core.c
> > > index bb57f2d39d1c..e3d0559206d8 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-core.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-core.c
> > > @@ -13,6 +13,7 @@
> > >  #include <linux/dmaengine.h>
> > >  #include <linux/err.h>
> > >  #include <linux/interrupt.h>
> > > +#include <linux/io.h>
> > >  #include <linux/irq.h>
> > >  #include <linux/dma/edma.h>
> > >  #include <linux/dma-mapping.h>
> > > @@ -254,6 +255,23 @@ static void dw_edma_finish_termination(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  	chan->status = EDMA_ST_IDLE;
> > >  }
> > >
> > > +static void dw_edma_core_ll_sync(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > > +{
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Remote controller registers and LL memory may be reached through
> > > +	 * different paths. Complete posted LL writes before the doorbell.
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (!(chan->dw->chip->flags & DW_EDMA_CHIP_LOCAL))
> > > +		readl(chan->ll_region.vaddr.io);
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > +/* Must be called with vc.lock held for an LL channel. */
> > > +static void dw_edma_core_ch_kick(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > > +{
> > > +	dw_edma_core_ll_sync(chan);
> > > +	dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell(chan);
> > > +}
> > > +
> >
> > Can you move
> >
> > 	if (!(chan->dw->chip->flags & DW_EDMA_CHIP_LOCAL))
> > 		readl(chan->ll_region.vaddr.io);
> >
> > into funciton dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell().
>
> Could you elaborate a bit more on the concern?
>
> I'm guessing that one or both of the following changes look unnecessary to you:
>
>   (a). add the common dw_edma_core_ll_sync() helper
>   (b). move it outside of dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell()
>
> Regarding (a), the helper is also used in patch 22, where the LL writes must be
> completed before re-enabling the direction, without issuing a doorbell at that
> point. So I think (a) is useful on its own.
>
> Regarding (b), this patch 11 puts the raw doorbell write under event_lock.
> Simply keeping the sync in dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell would therefor also put the
> remote non-posted MRd under that lock. I tried to avoid it for two reasons:
>
>   1. It would otherwise increase event_lock contention, especially for eDMA,
>      where the lock granularity is a direction rather than a channel. The IRQ
>      path also runs dw_edma_record_irq() while holding the same lock.
>
>   2. If the non-posted MRd completion is delayed, event_lock would remain held
>      for the full delay, which can easily be avoided by this patch.
>
> Or is your concern more of the API design, that every doorbell call via
> dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell() should include the LL publication barrier?

Yes, doorbell() should include memory barrier.

Frank

>
> Thanks for reviewing,
> Koichiro
>
> >
> > Frank
> > >  /* Must be called with vc.lock held. */
> > >  static void dw_edma_core_ch_maybe_doorbell(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  {
> > > @@ -261,7 +279,7 @@ static void dw_edma_core_ch_maybe_doorbell(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  	    chan->status != EDMA_ST_BUSY || !dw_edma_ll_pending(chan))
> > >  		return;
> > >
> > > -	dw_edma_core_ch_doorbell(chan);
> > > +	dw_edma_core_ch_kick(chan);
> > >  }
> > >
> > >  static void dw_edma_device_caps(struct dma_chan *dchan,
> > > diff --git a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-v0-core.c b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-v0-core.c
> > > index d883ca446f5a..b3098eb83442 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-v0-core.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-edma-v0-core.c
> > > @@ -480,20 +480,6 @@ static void dw_edma_v0_core_ch_enable(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  		  upper_32_bits(chan->ll_region.paddr));
> > >  }
> > >
> > > -static void dw_edma_v0_sync_ll_data(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > > -{
> > > -	/*
> > > -	 * In case of remote eDMA engine setup, the DW PCIe RP/EP internal
> > > -	 * configuration registers and application memory are normally accessed
> > > -	 * over different buses. Ensure LL-data reaches the memory before the
> > > -	 * doorbell register is toggled by issuing the dummy-read from the remote
> > > -	 * LL memory in a hope that the MRd TLP will return only after the
> > > -	 * last MWr TLP is completed
> > > -	 */
> > > -	if (!(chan->dw->chip->flags & DW_EDMA_CHIP_LOCAL))
> > > -		readl(chan->ll_region.vaddr.io);
> > > -}
> > > -
> > >  static void dw_edma_v0_core_ch_config(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct dw_edma *dw = chan->dw;
> > > @@ -624,8 +610,6 @@ static void dw_edma_v0_core_ch_doorbell(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct dw_edma *dw = chan->dw;
> > >
> > > -	dw_edma_v0_sync_ll_data(chan);
> > > -
> > >  	/* Doorbell */
> > >  	SET_RW_32(dw, chan->dir, doorbell,
> > >  		  FIELD_PREP(EDMA_V0_DOORBELL_CH_MASK, chan->id));
> > > diff --git a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-hdma-v0-core.c b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-hdma-v0-core.c
> > > index afc2f24fecd3..64a07fbc5be3 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-hdma-v0-core.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/dma/dw-edma/dw-hdma-v0-core.c
> > > @@ -282,20 +282,6 @@ static void dw_hdma_v0_core_ch_enable(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  		  HDMA_V0_CONSUMER_CYCLE_STAT | HDMA_V0_CONSUMER_CYCLE_BIT);
> > >  }
> > >
> > > -static void dw_hdma_v0_sync_ll_data(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > > -{
> > > -	/*
> > > -	 * In case of remote HDMA engine setup, the DW PCIe RP/EP internal
> > > -	 * configuration registers and application memory are normally accessed
> > > -	 * over different buses. Ensure LL-data reaches the memory before the
> > > -	 * doorbell register is toggled by issuing the dummy-read from the remote
> > > -	 * LL memory in a hope that the MRd TLP will return only after the
> > > -	 * last MWr TLP is completed
> > > -	 */
> > > -	if (!(chan->dw->chip->flags & DW_EDMA_CHIP_LOCAL))
> > > -		readl(chan->ll_region.vaddr.io);
> > > -}
> > > -
> > >  static void dw_hdma_v0_core_non_ll_start(struct dw_edma_chan *chan,
> > >  					 struct dw_edma_burst *child)
> > >  {
> > > @@ -393,8 +379,6 @@ static void dw_hdma_v0_core_ch_doorbell(struct dw_edma_chan *chan)
> > >  {
> > >  	struct dw_edma *dw = chan->dw;
> > >
> > > -	dw_hdma_v0_sync_ll_data(chan);
> > > -
> > >  	/* Doorbell */
> > >  	SET_CH_32(dw, chan->dir, chan->id, doorbell, HDMA_V0_DOORBELL_START);
> > >  }
> > > --
> > > 2.51.0
> > >

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-27 17:02 [PATCH v3 00/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Support dynamic LL appends Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 01/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add dw_edma_core_ll_cur_idx() to get current LL entry index Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 02/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add dw_edma_core_ll_clear() to clear LL control-word Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 03/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Factor out linked-list transfer start Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 04/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Make DMA link list work as a circular buffer Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 19:09   ` Frank Li
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 05/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Move callback result helper before LL helpers Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 06/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Dispatch DONE interrupts by channel request Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 19:11   ` Frank Li
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 07/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Centralize LL doorbell decisions Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 08/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Prepare LL progress event handling Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 19:47   ` Frank Li
2026-07-28  6:03     ` Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 20:09   ` Frank Li
2026-07-28  6:02     ` Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 09/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Prepare deferred IRQ reporting for LL events Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 20:12   ` Frank Li
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 10/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Prepare LL kicks for event serialization Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 20:18   ` Frank Li
2026-07-28  5:38     ` Koichiro Den
2026-07-28 15:43       ` Frank Li [this message]
2026-07-28 17:34         ` Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 11/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Serialize LL event capture with channel kicks Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 20:35   ` Frank Li
2026-07-28  6:03     ` Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 12/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Keep channels stopped while ABORT is pending Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 13/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Reclaim issued descriptors from IRQ-paired LL progress Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 14/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add LL interrupt placement policy Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 15/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Recheck stopped LL channels before restart Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 16/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Use HDMA watermarks as progress events Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 17/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Recover stopped channels from tx_status() Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 18/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Make the LL ring reset a full channel resync Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 19/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Drain LL entries for STOP and PAUSE Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 20/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Dynamically append requests while running Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 21/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add engine reset and enable operations Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 22/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add engine recovery infrastructure Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 23/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Detect and recover a stalled eDMA engine Koichiro Den
2026-07-27 17:03 ` [PATCH v3 24/24] dmaengine: dw-edma: Add trace support Koichiro Den

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