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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>, Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	Baolin Wang <baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Nico Pache <nico.pache@linux.dev>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Lance Yang <lance.yang@linux.dev>,
	Usama Arif <usama.arif@linux.dev>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	Kevin Brodsky <kevin.brodsky@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/3] kselftest: mm: introduce alloc_isolated_mem()
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 12:22:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqKS7CP67X4h6NiM@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0b3ea99-e20b-4883-8fa3-67fdbf5b1ee4@kernel.org>

On Thu, Sep 10, 2026 at 01:14:42PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 9/10/26 13:02, Yeoreum Yun wrote:
> >>> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/soft-dirty.c b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/soft-dirty.c
> >>> index 5f278913c4d7..b6fad38c8bee 100644
> >>> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/mm/soft-dirty.c
> >>> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/mm/soft-dirty.c
> >>> @@ -92,9 +92,9 @@ static void test_hugepage(int pagemap_fd, int pagesize)
> >>>  	if (!hpage_len)
> >>>  		ksft_exit_fail_msg("Reading PMD pagesize failed");
> >>>  
> >>> -	map = memalign(hpage_len, hpage_len);
> >>> +	map = alloc_isolated_mem(hpage_len, hpage_len);
> >>>  	if (!map)
> >>> -		ksft_exit_fail_msg("memalign failed\n");
> >>> +		ksft_exit_fail_msg("alloc_isolated_mem failed\n");
> >>>  
> >>>  	ret = madvise(map, hpage_len, MADV_HUGEPAGE);
> >>>  	if (ret)
> >>> @@ -130,7 +130,7 @@ static void test_hugepage(int pagemap_fd, int pagesize)
> >>>  		ksft_test_result_skip("Test %s huge page allocation\n", __func__);
> >>>  		ksft_test_result_skip("Test %s huge page dirty bit\n", __func__);
> >>>  	}
> >>> -	free(map);
> >>> +	free_isolated_mem(map, hpage_len);
> >>>  }
> >>
> >> smaps is really only problematic with merged VMAs when relying on exact page
> >> statistics. For other properties (vm flags, MMUPageSize) it's not a problem as
> >> long as our smap search just finds the VMA that covers an address.
> >>
> >> Assuming we fixed check_huge_anon() to not use smaps, why is this change here
> >> required?
> > 
> > Since there is no interface to get vm_flags not via /proc/self/smaps,
> > It might be good to have it for preventing unwanted VMA merge.
> > 
> > And might be useful for future to prevent unwated VMA merge.
> 
> See my reply on why vm flags are generally not a problem. Just like other
> properties that are not changed during VMA merging.
> 
> Let's not perform random code changes without a clear picture.
> 
> And just to emphasize again: VMA merging could already be a problem before
> memalign() internal changes.
> 
> (also observe here how we do a MADV_HUGEPAGE, so this is all rather arbitrary,
> which is not good)

As I mentioned in my previous reply, what I’m trying to prevent here is
a failure when checking, immediately after memory allocation,
that a specific vm_flag is not set.

Yes, I agree that this could have been a problem even before
the internal changes to memalign(). An unwanted VMA merge could already
occur at the time of memory allocation.

So what I’m trying to avoid is a test failure where, due to such an
unexpected VMA merge during allocation, the subsequent check that
a specific vm_flag is not present fails.

I probably didn’t explain this clearly enough and ended up causing
more confusion. Sorry about that.

-- 
Sincerely,
Yeoreum Yun

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-10 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-07  8:19 [PATCH v5 0/3] kselftest: mm: fix some failure of split_huge_page_test Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 1/3] kselftest: mm: prevent random failure of huge page split for khugepaged Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:15   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 2/3] kselftest: mm: replace usage of /proc/self/smaps for check_huge_xxx() helper Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:20   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 10:54     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:59       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:25         ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:27           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:31             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-07  8:19 ` [PATCH v5 3/3] kselftest: mm: introduce alloc_isolated_mem() Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:34   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:02     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:14       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:22         ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]
2026-09-10 11:24           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:30             ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:55               ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 12:16                 ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 12:22                   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 12:25                   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 12:34                     ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 13:14                       ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 13:52                         ` ;, Re: ;, [PATCH v5 3/3] kselftest: ;, mm: introducealloc_isolated_mem; Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:15 ` [PATCH v5 0/3] kselftest: mm: fix some failure of split_huge_page_test David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 10:31   ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 10:45     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:16       ` Yeoreum Yun
2026-09-10 11:23         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-10 11:35           ` Yeoreum Yun

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