From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)" <rafael@kernel.org>
Cc: Armin Wolf <W_Armin@gmx.de>,
Linux ACPI <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@kernel.org>,
Hans de Goede <hansg@kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux PM <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
Lukasz Luba <lukasz.luba@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 04/10] ACPI: processor: thermal: Use thermal_cooling_device_create()
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 07:35:58 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqd5rhdaE_AIxMNI@ashevche-desk.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJZ5v0j9g9Vyam7PnrGikYyyrUwSFghPk6ecXVEm9PN8z8tOHg@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 12:28:05PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel) wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 13, 2026 at 10:15 AM Andy Shevchenko
> <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 11:14:09PM +0200, Armin Wolf wrote:
> > > Am 11.09.26 um 20:06 schrieb Andy Shevchenko:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 07:01:23PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel) wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 6:47 PM Andy Shevchenko
> > > > > <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 06:36:28PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel) wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 6:32 PM Andy Shevchenko
> > > > > > > <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2026 at 03:02:53PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
...
> > > > > > > > Is any user space ABI breakage expected as an outcome of this change?
> > > > > > > Not really.
> > > > > > Maybe makes sense to state this clearly in the cover letter?
> > > > > I guess you specifically mean the manually created symbolic links in
> > > > > sysfs that get removed.
> > > > >
> > > > > If so, I'm not aware of anyone using them for anything, but the lack
> > > > > of observation is not proof of nonexistence.
> > > > Yes, I refer to the changes in the sysfs layout / presence / absence.
> > >
> > > AFAIK those custom sysfs attributes are not even documented under Documentation/ABI, and
> > > thermald also does not seem to use them. I thus think we can safely remove them.
> >
> > There is Debian source code browser (that covers hundreds of OSS projects) [1],
> > have you tried to seek any matches there? Otherwise the assumption that nobody
> > uses them might be wrong even if they were never documented.
> >
> > [1]: https://codesearch.debian.net/
>
> It is mostly relevant whether or not they are used by someone today
> and not whether or not they have ever been used at all.
Yes, my point is if there is no use there, it will be a very good justification
to assume that no-one use that.
> We'll find out.
Sure. Sooner or later :-)
> If anyone complains and they are unable to cope with that, adding
> "thermal_cooling" back should not be a problem (although I'd rather
> not do it unless absolutely necessary).
Agreed.
--
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-14 4:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-11 13:00 [PATCH v1 00/10] ACPI: thermal: Register thermal class cooling devices under parents Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 13:00 ` [PATCH v1 01/10] ACPI: fan: Fix memory leak due to leftover devm_kcalloc() argument Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 16:29 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-12 13:48 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-11 21:01 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:01 ` [PATCH v1 02/10] ACPI: video: Fix backlight unregistration ordering Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 16:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-11 16:35 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-11 21:02 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:02 ` [PATCH v1 03/10] thermal: core: Introduce thermal_cooling_device_create() Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:04 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-14 10:18 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-15 19:25 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:02 ` [PATCH v1 04/10] ACPI: processor: thermal: Use thermal_cooling_device_create() Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 16:32 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-11 16:36 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-11 16:46 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-11 17:01 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-11 18:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-11 21:14 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-13 8:15 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-13 10:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-14 4:35 ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2026-09-11 21:11 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:03 ` [PATCH v1 05/10] ACPI: video: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:16 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:04 ` [PATCH v1 06/10] ACPI: fan: " Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:17 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:05 ` [PATCH v1 07/10] ACPI: thermal: Use cooling device parent for thermal zone binding Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 16:36 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-11 16:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-11 21:20 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:05 ` [PATCH v1 08/10] ACPI: processor: thermal: Use more suitable cooling device data Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:22 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:06 ` [PATCH v1 09/10] ACPI: fan: Store ACPI device pointer in struct acpi_fan Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:25 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 13:07 ` [PATCH v1 10/10] ACPI: fan: Use more suitable cooling device data Rafael J. Wysocki
2026-09-11 21:26 ` Armin Wolf
2026-09-11 21:35 ` [PATCH v1 00/10] ACPI: thermal: Register thermal class cooling devices under parents Armin Wolf
2026-09-12 13:34 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-09-15 19:20 ` Armin Wolf
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