From: "Guido Günther" <agx@sigxcpu.org>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: Val Packett <val@packett.cool>,
Liam Girdwood <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
~postmarketos/upstreaming@lists.sr.ht,
phone-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sound@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] ASoC: soc-core: use the device tree card name as long_name
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2026 13:34:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqfbwDUegHcx-kDn@quark2.heme.sigxcpu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqfYM0svh1mDZtqj@sirena.co.uk>
Hi Mark,
On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 12:19:15PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 01:00:49PM +0200, Guido Günther wrote:
> > On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 12:58:55AM -0300, Val Packett wrote:
> > > When setting the model property for the sound card on an OF/DT system,
> > > the expectation is that that model name would be used in the UCM config
> > > path lookup. However, the DT model name was only used as the "short"
> > > name, which gets overriden by the "long" name during loading, and
> > > the "long" name is automatically set based on DMI data if available.
> > > As a result, adding an intermediate bootloader such as U-Boot which
> > > provides DMI data on a device that didn't have it before would break
> > > the UCM config loading by suddenly looking at the "wrong" path.
>
> > > Fix by assigning the DT model name to the long_name field as well.
>
> I'm not convinced that there is a clear expectation here, any change
> will doubtless upset some other user (for example someone using a system
> derived from a reference board that happens to work with it's device
> tree, or something where the firmware puts discovered information into
> DMI). Really you're just not supposed to combine DMI and DT based
> discovery methods, having a system shipping both is just going to lead
> to confusion and there's no way we can possibly get it right. You have
> decided that for your systems the DMI information is bad and you want to
> override it but that doesn't mean that the next person won't make the
> opposite choice. Any decision here should be policy based in userspace
> based on the full system information.
Thanks for the hint. So that would mean we should do something similar
to what Lenovo does in UCM (that Val pointed to)?
https://github.com/alsa-project/alsa-ucm-conf/blob/980fb83651e82c3e53d3a0ab7fa9b7d6fc2d809b/ucm2/Qualcomm/x1e80100/x1e80100.conf
>
> Please don't send content free pings and please allow a reasonable time
> for review. People get busy, go on holiday, attend conferences and so
> on so unless there is some reason for urgency (like critical bug fixes)
> please allow at least a couple of weeks for review. If there have been
> review comments then people may be waiting for those to be addressed.
The original mail was from May so I figured ~ half a year would be o.k.?
Sorry I got that wrong.
Cheers,
-- Guido
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-14 11:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-06 3:58 Val Packett
2026-07-24 23:12 ` Clayton Craft
2026-09-06 11:50 ` David Heidelberg
2026-09-14 11:00 ` Guido Günther
2026-09-14 11:19 ` Mark Brown
2026-09-14 11:34 ` Guido Günther [this message]
2026-09-14 11:41 ` Mark Brown
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