From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
lirongqing <lirongqing@baidu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RESEND] mm/vmalloc: Use dedicated unbound workqueues for vmap drain
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2026 19:03:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aqwdc7Oh24b_bxOQ@milan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260917000738.115-1-hdanton@sina.com>
On Thu, Sep 17, 2026 at 08:07:37AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2026 18:00:20 +0200 "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 08:12:27AM +0800, Hillf Danton wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Sep 2026 18:56:26 +0200 "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" wrote:
> > > > This patch does not use queue_work_on() semantic thus i do not want to
> > > > queue all helpers on current CPU. Instead scheduler does balancing and
> > > > that is it.
> > > >
> > > [Fair queue in the Eric Dumazet accent]
> > >
> > > +static bool
> > > +schedule_drain_vmap_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq,
> > > + struct work_struct *work)
> > > +{
> > > + if (wq)
> > > + return queue_work(wq, work);
> > > +
> > > + return false;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > >
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/include/linux/workqueue.h#n697
> > >
> > > static inline bool queue_work(struct workqueue_struct *wq,
> > > struct work_struct *work)
> > > {
> > > return queue_work_on(WORK_CPU_UNBOUND, wq, work);
> > > }
> > >
> > > queue_work_on
> > > __queue_work
> > > if (req_cpu == WORK_CPU_UNBOUND) {
> > > if (wq->flags & WQ_UNBOUND)
> > > cpu = wq_select_unbound_cpu(raw_smp_processor_id());
> > > else
> > > cpu = raw_smp_processor_id();
> > > }
> > > /*
> > > * When queueing an unbound work item to a wq, prefer local CPU if allowed
> > > * by wq_unbound_cpumask. Otherwise, round robin among the allowed ones to
> > > * avoid perturbing sensitive tasks.
> > > */
> > > static int wq_select_unbound_cpu(int cpu)
> > > {
> > > pr_warn_once("workqueue: round-robin CPU selection forced, expect performance impact\n");
> > > }
> > >
> > /**
> > * worker_attach_to_pool() - attach a worker to a pool
> > * @worker: worker to be attached
> > * @pool: the target pool
> > *
> > * Attach @worker to @pool. Once attached, the %WORKER_UNBOUND flag and
> > * cpu-binding of @worker are kept coordinated with the pool across
> > * cpu-[un]hotplugs.
> > */
> > static void worker_attach_to_pool(struct worker *worker,
> > struct worker_pool *pool)
> > {
> > mutex_lock(&wq_pool_attach_mutex);
> >
> > /*
> > * The wq_pool_attach_mutex ensures %POOL_DISASSOCIATED remains stable
> > * across this function. See the comments above the flag definition for
> > * details. BH workers are, while per-CPU, always DISASSOCIATED.
> > */
> > if (pool->flags & POOL_DISASSOCIATED) {
> > worker->flags |= WORKER_UNBOUND;
> > } else {
> > WARN_ON_ONCE(pool->flags & POOL_BH);
> > kthread_set_per_cpu(worker->task, pool->cpu);
> > }
> > ...
> > }
> >
> > A local CPU preference for WQ_UNBOUND is not the same as executing on
> > the __bound__ per-CPU system kworker.
> >
> As Ulad, like Yu Zhao, is one of the couple black horses I saw in mm the
> past a couple years, lad, I make the difference between BOUND and UNBOUND
> workers as clear as it is.
>
This is very good :)
>
> Given numa node1 including cpu8-15 without cpu hotplug cared, a bound worker
> for cpu9 can not migrate to any other cpu, while a unbound worker can run on
> any cpu of node1, that is all.
>
Right.
<snip>
if (list_empty(&pwq->inactive_works) && pwq_tryinc_nr_active(pwq, false)) {
if (list_empty(&pool->worklist))
pool->last_progress_ts = jiffies;
trace_workqueue_activate_work(work);
insert_work(pwq, work, &pool->worklist, work_flags);
kick_pool_pick(pool, &wake_task);
} else {
work_flags |= WORK_STRUCT_INACTIVE;
insert_work(pwq, work, &pwq->inactive_works, work_flags);
}
out:
raw_spin_unlock(&pool->lock);
if (wake_task)
wake_up_process(wake_task);
<snip>
wake_up_process(wake_task) - this guy takes care about task placement.
For us it is TASK_FAIR thus select_task_rq_fair() decides the fate of
unbound kworker.
> Important UN/BOUND have nothing to do with eevdf (and balancing cpus) because
> of different layers.
>
> And at best I suspect what you missed is the difference between drain_vmap_work
> and lru_add_drain_work, but I do not like the latter as it annoyed the RT/full
> nohz apps more than thought [11].
>
> static DECLARE_WORK(drain_vmap_work, drain_vmap_area_work);
> static DEFINE_PER_CPU(struct work_struct, lru_add_drain_work);
>
> [11] Subject: [PATCH v4 3/4] swap: apply new pw_queue_on() interface
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260519012754.240804-4-leobras.c@gmail.com/
>
I am not sure a drain_vmap_work should be per-cpu, IMO.
Thanks!
--
Uladzislau Rezki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-17 17:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-05 15:27 Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2026-09-05 22:37 ` Andrew Morton
2026-09-08 14:23 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-09-06 3:50 ` Hillf Danton
2026-09-08 14:21 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-09-09 1:08 ` Hillf Danton
2026-09-14 16:56 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-09-16 0:12 ` Hillf Danton
2026-09-16 16:00 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2026-09-17 0:07 ` Hillf Danton
2026-09-17 17:03 ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2026-09-17 23:24 ` Hillf Danton
2026-09-10 8:33 ` Ye Liu
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