From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org>
To: Cen Zhang <zzzccc427@gmail.com>
Cc: dhowells@redhat.com, paul@paul-moore.com, jmorris@namei.org,
serge@hallyn.com, akpm@osdl.org, keyrings@vger.kernel.org,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, baijiaju1990@gmail.com,
jjzuming@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KEYS: Protect user key quota access during instantiation
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 16:49:55 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aszlg2R3E7zqR75r@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFRLqsUB0MQRoCHg8cXmyofWqbDGyvAr7vV07i0jUpMnSaksVQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 09:30:43PM +0800, Cen Zhang wrote:
> Hi Jarkko,
>
> Thanks very much for the detailed feedback and for your patience with this :).
>
> Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko@kernel.org> 于2026年10月12日周一 21:03写道:
> >
> >
> > I appreciate the fix but if I'm completely hones the commit message
> > looks like direct LLM output, which is not acceptable.
> >
> > It needs to be proof-readed and edited. For this reason, I want a better
> > iteration before I apply this.
> >
> > Br, Jarkko
>
> Thanks very much for the detailed feedback and for your patience with this.
>
> Several people have mentioned that my commit messages look like they were
> generated by an LLM — and to be honest, I did write them with LLM assistance.
> However, they often gave me the feeling of being questioned rather
> than explained.
> I spend most of my time looking for bugs, following my interest, so
> I’m more familiar
> with bug patterns than with the deeper details of the subsystem. That
> means I can
> make mistakes. I’m willing to listen to feedback and keep revising the
> patch until it’s in
> good shape, but the pressure sometimes makes me afraid to continue the
> conversation,
> worried about making more mistakes. Your patient explanation this time
> really means a
> lot to me.
>
> Of course, I also fully understand that busy developers feel
> uncomfortable when seeing
> unclear or poorly written messages. I just wanted to express my thanks
> for taking the time
> to gently and patiently explain things clearly.
>
> I’ll carefully rework the commit message following your suggestions to
> make the concurrency
> scenario and the reasoning clearer, and send a new patch once it’s
> ready. I’d appreciate it if
> you could take another look then.
While AI assistance is allowed, if this happens as a pattern, it is
misuse and eager way to credit without due. I.e., you've done 50%
of the work but ignored the human part.
I.e., you also must understand without AI assistance what
the patch does. If you do, it should not a problem to write
a commit message tht simply describes what it does.
To summarize:
1. Actual mistakes are fine and then patch just needs to be iterated.
2. Skipping work is not mistake and it is not cool.
Hope this clears things up.
>
> Best regards,
> Cen Zhang
Br, Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-12 13:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-12 3:15 Cen Zhang
2026-10-12 13:00 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-12 13:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-12 13:30 ` Cen Zhang
2026-10-12 13:33 ` Cen Zhang
2026-10-12 15:01 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-12 13:49 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2026-10-12 13:59 ` Cen Zhang
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