mirror of https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>
To: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
Cc: Luigi Rizzo <lrizzo@google.com>,
	Luigi Rizzo <rizzo.unipi@gmail.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	"David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Willem de Bruijn <willemb@google.com>,
	Kuniyuki Iwashima <kuniyu@google.com>,
	Joshua Washington <joshwash@google.com>,
	Harshitha Ramamurthy <hramamurthy@google.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@nvidia.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@nvidia.com>,
	Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>,
	Przemek Kitszel <przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com>,
	Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
	Michael Chan <michael.chan@broadcom.com>,
	Pavan Chebbi <pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, driver-core@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC: DMA_PMD 00/22] DMA_PMD: PMD_SIZE-backed IO buffer pools
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2026 14:49:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aszzcpW6fJWGcQCZ@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0cc1cac1-a500-489b-9c1b-b49598b5550b@kernel.org>

On Mon, Oct 12, 2026 at 03:51:39PM +0200, David Hildenbrand (Arm) wrote:
> On 10/3/26 23:22, Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Here is a subsystem called DMA_PMD on which I would like feedback on
> > architecture, possible enhancements, or kernel components that could be
> > reused to avoid duplication.
> 
> Here is a feedback to a subsystem called DMA_PMD ;)
> 
> Why is basing this on PMDs (and embedding it in the name) the right approach?
> 
> On architctures with large PMDs (512 MiB on arm64 with 64k), would we really
> want to use 512 MiB pages, or rather something smaller (e.g., 2 MiB) that might
> possibly also have TLB benefits (cont-pte)?

+1 I raised the same point in the LPC talk.
AFAIK, this series tries to solve both IOTLB pressure and CoCo bouncing
at the same time which might be too strict; as for CoCo there is no
actual IOMMU, so there is no sizing constraint.

Also to reduce bouncing, I think it is sufficient to use the SWIOTLB
instead of having a new pool + recycling, the tricky part is how to
abstract that to client drivers as this would be needed beyond SKB.

Thanks,
Mostafa

> 
> -- 
> Cheers,
> 
> David
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-10-12 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-03 21:22 Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 01/22] iommu/dma: introduce CONFIG_DMA_PMD and metadata table Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:44   ` Randy Dunlap
2026-10-04  9:14     ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 02/22] iommu/dma: add DMA_PMD pool lifecycle and page recycle hook Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-10  2:59   ` kernel test robot
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 03/22] mm: Add split_page_compound() Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 04/22] iommu/dma: add DMA_PMD pool block allocation Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 05/22] iommu/dma: Global cap and shrinker for DMA_PMD pool memory Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 06/22] iommu/dma: reserve a per-domain IOVA window for DMA_PMD pages Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 07/22] iommu/dma: release DMA_PMD domain mappings on domain teardown Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 08/22] iommu/dma: use per-domain IOVA window to map DMA_PMD memory Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 09/22] iommu/dma: Add DMA_PMD arena allocator Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 10/22] driver core: Add per-device dma_pmd_* sysfs attributes Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 11/22] dma-mapping: Use DMA_PMD arena for dma_alloc_attrs() Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 12/22] net/core: Use per-CPU DMA_PMD pools for skb_page_frag_refill() Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 13/22] net/core: Use DMA_PMD for page_pool memory Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 14/22] iommu/dma: Support decrypted and pinned DMA_PMD pages Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 15/22] iommu/dma: Add background page scrubber for DMA_PMD pools Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 16/22] iommu/dma: Add per-NUMA-node PMD page reservoir Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 17/22] net/gve: Use DMA_PMD memory for RX buffers Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 18/22] net/gve: Use DMA_PMD memory for tx header bounce buffers Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 19/22] net/mlx5e: " Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 20/22] net/idpf: " Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 21/22] net/bnxt: " Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-03 21:22 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 22/22] iommu/dma: Add DMA_PMD statistics and debugfs Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-11  9:02 ` [RFC: DMA_PMD 00/22] DMA_PMD: PMD_SIZE-backed IO buffer pools Pranjal Shrivastava
2026-10-12 13:51 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-12 14:45   ` Luigi Rizzo
2026-10-12 19:43     ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-12 14:49   ` Mostafa Saleh [this message]
2026-10-12 15:02     ` Luigi Rizzo

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=aszzcpW6fJWGcQCZ@google.com \
    --to=smostafa@google.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=aleksander.lobakin@intel.com \
    --cc=anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com \
    --cc=corbet@lwn.net \
    --cc=dakr@kernel.org \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=david@kernel.org \
    --cc=driver-core@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=edumazet@kernel.org \
    --cc=gregkh@linuxfoundation.org \
    --cc=hawk@kernel.org \
    --cc=hch@lst.de \
    --cc=hramamurthy@google.com \
    --cc=ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org \
    --cc=iommu@lists.linux.dev \
    --cc=joro@8bytes.org \
    --cc=joshwash@google.com \
    --cc=kuba@kernel.org \
    --cc=kuniyu@google.com \
    --cc=linux-doc@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=lrizzo@google.com \
    --cc=m.szyprowski@samsung.com \
    --cc=michael.chan@broadcom.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=pabeni@redhat.com \
    --cc=pavan.chebbi@broadcom.com \
    --cc=przemyslaw.kitszel@intel.com \
    --cc=rafael@kernel.org \
    --cc=rizzo.unipi@gmail.com \
    --cc=robin.murphy@arm.com \
    --cc=saeedm@nvidia.com \
    --cc=tariqt@nvidia.com \
    --cc=vbabka@kernel.org \
    --cc=will@kernel.org \
    --cc=willemb@google.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox

all inboxes | Powered by JetHome®