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From: Kayra Cizmeci <kayracizmeci@gmail.com>
To: albin_yang@163.com
Cc: albinwyang@tencent.com, bsegall@google.com, chen.yu@linux.dev,
	 dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, jstultz@google.com,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com,  kprateek.nayak@amd.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mgorman@suse.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	 peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org,  vschneid@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] sched/stats: Fix run_delay over-count for proxy-migrated blocked donors
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 17:48:33 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <at9jBHbIlxA6Amcu@scheduler.schedules> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261026135352.4120064-1-albin_yang@163.com>

On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 09:53:51PM +0800, albin_yang@163.com wrote:
> Hi Kayra,
> 
> Thanks for your review.
> 
> > ... sched_info_dequeue() ... Or Am I missing something?
> 
> No, you're right: the fake enqueue starts the counter at migration time, and
> the bill is settled later in sched_info_dequeue() on the proxy_needs_return()
> path (dequeue_block_task() with TASK_WAKING). The ~167 ms I measured is that
> delta. I had written sched_info_arrive() charging it directly, which is wrong -
> I'll fix the description.
> 
> > This should be a series instead of separate patches if this goes above.
> 
> Agreed - I'll resend as [PATCH v5 1/2] (DELAY_DEQUEUE fix) + [PATCH v5 2/2]
> (this one).
> 
> > ... when B gets a kill signal B need to enqueue separately from A, so it
> > starts to wait. But blocked_on is set, so B's counter never starts.
> 
> A case I hadn't considered, and my sanity check does not cover it: I only
> verified that a donor waking normally and then contending for the CPU still
> accumulates run_delay. A waiter enqueuing separately from its owner does
> genuinely start waiting for a CPU.
> 
> So let me ask first: in that path, is blocked_on really still set when B is
> enqueued separately? If yes, !task_is_blocked() would under-count B, and the
> options as I see them are:

AFAICT from the code, yes. BTW, I thought about this and I think a
separate fix would be better clearing blocked_on in this case. Since
the task is really waiting for CPU time. Separate from its owner.

Or am I missing something and this accually does not works?

> 
>   a) a predicate that is also cleared on that path,
>   b) clear blocked_on there (proxy-exec territory - for you/John/Peter),
>   c) hold this patch until John's series lands and re-evaluate then,
>   d) fix it at the source instead: give proxy_migrate_task() DEQUEUE_SAVE /
>      ENQUEUE_RESTORE so the migration never touches sched_info at all. That
>      sidesteps the blocked_on question entirely, but it also affects psi, rt,
>      dl and sched_ext, so I'd want your/John's input first.
> 
> Do you know whether blocked_on is still set there? If it is, I'd still prefer
> to take this now, since the under-count only shows up once John's series is in,
> and revisit (or adjust) then - unless you'd rather wait.

It's up to Peter to take it or not so... IDK.

Thanks,

Kayra

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-26 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-25 13:07 albin_yang
2026-10-25 19:28 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-26 13:53   ` albin_yang
2026-10-26 14:48     ` Kayra Cizmeci [this message]
2026-10-26  5:46 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-26 13:38   ` albin_yang

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