From: Lorenzo Pieralisi <lpieralisi@kernel.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)" <rafael@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 02/11] ACPI: Introduce irq_get() for static fwnodes
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2026 08:43:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <atmwo3Bpi62kB8_n@red-moon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f077fd3-9c67-409a-b46f-7f28a55c180b@arm.com>
On Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 12:18:39PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2026-10-21 10:06 am, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 21, 2026 at 09:58:33AM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 20, 2026 at 05:30:00PM +0200, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 08:05:50PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel) wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, Oct 19, 2026 at 12:34 PM Lorenzo Pieralisi
> > > > > <lpieralisi@kernel.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > > > Basically, yes, the idea is to defer the creation of the platform
> > > > > device until the dependency is met.
> > > > >
> > > > > > till the dependencies are cleared but then, without a _CRS, where will
> > > > > > the consumer driver find the platform device resources ?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, good question.
> > > > >
> > > > > > There are multiple facets in this issue and possibly some of them have
> > > > > > been already solved but I need to pull them together.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Note that the dependencies can be added to acpi_dep_list after
> > > > > > > creating a struct acpi_device with acpi_add_single_object() and
> > > > > > > acpi_scan_add_dep() is not really suitable for that, but it should be
> > > > > > > doable if the dependencies can be found.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I need to have a deeper look into this next week but I wanted to ask first
> > > > > > > > whether there was something I missed - most likely.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Well, it is not really straightforward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes it is getting messy. This RFC, with all its flaws, does not transparently
> > > > > > prevents enumeration but rather relies on -EPROBE_DEFER to sort out
> > > > > > dependencies - though it does so by adding more stuff into ACPI static fwnode
> > > > > > that to be honest I'd rather see gone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think what you need is a notification mechanism that will trigger
> > > > > when a specific device (enumerated via the ACPI Namespace) becomes
> > > > > operational. It doesn't look like any of the existing ones (platform
> > > > > device probe deferral or ACPI device dependencies tracking) is really
> > > > > suitable for your use case.
> > > >
> > > > Yes. It might just be a notification from ACPI core to say "the driver for
> > > > this ACPI device probed, go create platform devices that depends on it".
> > > >
> > > > We can check and track the dependency in code that does create those
> > > > devices today.
> > > >
> > > > I will think about this to see how bad this might look like.
> > >
> > > Don't we do something similar in drivers/acpi/x86/lpss.c?
> >
> > I suppose I can add a notifier that checks whether the device whose
> > companion represents the ACPI device a given platform device IRQ depends
> > on was bound to its driver and then map the IRQ and add the platform device
> > _then_ - after all that's what acpi_dev_clear_dependencies() does (similar
> > at least).
> >
> > There is still the question - where the GSI number, flags should be
> > stashed so that the notifier can grab them in a uniform way. We
> > could simply attach platform data storing those values to a pdev, either on
> > a per static table basis or generalize the data so that a single notifier
> > would be able to deal with it.
> >
> > That or I can just piggyback on acpi_dev_clear_dependencies() and add
> > a separate dep mechanism to acpi_dep_data that instead of being acpi_handle
> > based the consumer is fwnode based (something Rafael mentioned before).
> >
> > I will have a stab at this and see what's the least bad solution I can
> > come up with.
> >
> > I suppose we are scrapping the -EPROBE_DEFER solution (ie this set),
> > what we are talking about above won't need to defer anything other
> > than the time when platform devices are added.
>
> I dunno, that seems pretty drastic for some use-cases - the fact that a GSI
> is described in a table doesn't necessarily mean it is critical to device
> operation. If we don't even create the device until all possible resources
> are available, then its driver never has any chance to decide whether it's
> happy to ignore the deferral and just use MSIs or polling instead...
I agree with you (but that's what we do for ACPI autodep and AFAICS OF
devlinks - though there there might be opt-outs).
To make -EPROBE_DEFER work I have to pursue the approach undertaken in this
set and apply requested changes - I don't see any other way.
Are we willing to accept the approach taken in this patchset (I can remove
software nodes and make the whole thing ACPI static nodes self-contained) ?
One way or another this ought to be sorted, please all let me know your
take on this.
Thanks,
Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-22 6:43 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-25 7:47 [PATCH RFC 00/11] ACPI: ARM64: Implement IRQ mapping probe deferral for static table devices Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 01/11] ACPI: irq: Return -EPROBE_DEFER on missing IRQ domain Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 9:45 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 02/11] ACPI: Introduce irq_get() for static fwnodes Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 9:49 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 10:30 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 10:54 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 11:32 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-28 16:15 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-30 17:13 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-10-06 16:19 ` Robin Murphy
2026-10-07 7:44 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-10-09 7:57 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-10-15 20:46 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-19 10:34 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-10-19 18:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-20 15:30 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-10-20 16:00 ` Rafael J. Wysocki (Intel)
2026-10-21 6:58 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-10-21 9:06 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-10-21 11:18 ` Robin Murphy
2026-10-22 6:43 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi [this message]
2026-09-28 23:24 ` Ashok Raj
2026-09-29 8:40 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-30 0:38 ` Ashok Raj
2026-09-30 7:40 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-30 7:56 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 03/11] driver core: platform: Add static ACPI nodes IRQ retrieval/mapping code Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 9:54 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 10:16 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 04/11] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer_mmio: Dispose IRQ mappings on probe failure Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 9:52 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 05/11] clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer_mmio: Implement arch mem timer deferred probe Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 06/11] ACPI: GTDT: Convert SBSA watchdog to IRQ properties Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 9:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 07/11] ACPI/IORT: Convert IORT devices to IRQs software-node properties Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 08/11] watchdog: sbsa: Handle IRQ probe deferral Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 09/11] iommu/arm-smmu: Add arm-smmu IRQ mapping -EPROBE_DEFER handling Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 10/11] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add " Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-28 22:41 ` Ashok Raj
2026-09-29 8:43 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2026-09-25 7:48 ` [PATCH RFC 11/11] perf/arm-smmu-v3-pmu: " Lorenzo Pieralisi
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