From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Cc: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v33 7/7] sched/proxy: Add deactivated (sleeping) owner handling to find_proxy_task()
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2026 11:01:26 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <auHH9ixQvWQ7RYA3@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3bb6028-52f9-4545-a5f1-08f56fa6ac2a@amd.com>
On 28/10/26 09:06, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> Hello Juri,
>
> On 10/27/2026 9:52 PM, Juri Lelli wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > On 26/10/26 09:56, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> >> On 10/24/2026 2:37 PM, Andrea Righi wrote:
> >>>> +static void do_activate_blocked_waiter(struct rq *target_rq, struct task_struct *p, int en_flags)
> >>>> +{
> >
> > ...
> >
> >>>> + if (task_cpu(p) != target_cpu) {
> >>>> + en_flags |= ENQUEUE_MIGRATED;
> >>>> + psi_ttwu_dequeue(p);
> >>>> + proxy_set_task_cpu(p, target_cpu);
> >>>> + }
> >>>
> >>> Can this break SCHED_DEADLINE bw accounting?
> >>>
> >>> p is sleeping here (not TASK_WAKING, not TASK_ON_RQ_MIGRATING), so
> >>> __set_task_cpu() skips migrate_task_rq_dl(): the old rq never does
> >>> sub_rq_bw(), while ENQUEUE_MIGRATED makes the new rq do add_rq_bw(), so
> >>> this_bw is leaked on the old rq. And if p is still dl_non_contending,
> >>> task_contending() on the new rq just cancels the inactive timer, leaving
> >>> running_bw on the old rq forever and making it underflow on the new rq
> >>> the next time p blocks.
> >>>
> >>> set_task_cpu() doesn't help, because migrate_task_rq_dl() bails out
> >>> unless TASK_WAKING, so I'm not sure how to fix this case...
> >>
> >> I wonder why "p->dl.dl_non_contending" is not sufficient to know if
> >> there exists residual bandwidth on prev CPU. Seems to have been like
> >> that since commit 209a0cbda7a0 ("sched/deadline: Improve the tracking
> >> of active utilization").
> >>
> >> Only time task is non-contending is if it goes away with DEQUEUE_SLEEP
> >> or switched_from_dl() with dl_runtime.
> >>
> >> The latter doesn't need migrating the timer as the timer will either
> >> be cancelled if the task switches back to deadline, or will expire
> >> where it was queued - set_task_cpu() has no effect in this case.
> >>
> >> Only other case that marks "dl_non_contending" is sleep + wakeup and
> >> for that "p->dl.non_contending" should be sufficient. I don't think
> >> we ever do a set_task_cpu() for a blocked task other than wakeup do
> >> we?
> >>
> >> Juri, Peter, are we missing something subtle here?
> >
> > I think Andrea's concern is valid, but I'm not sure I follow what you
> > propose Prateek (apologies!) or are you saying you don't see an issue
> > here?
>
> Sorry for the confusion! I do see the problem and my question was why
> can't the bailout in migrate_task_rq_dl() be something like:
>
> (Lightly tested)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/deadline.c b/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> index c0ebdcde5fe5..6a081c2b7191 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> @@ -2654,19 +2654,23 @@ select_task_rq_dl(struct task_struct *p, int cpu, int flags)
>
> static void migrate_task_rq_dl(struct task_struct *p, int new_cpu __maybe_unused)
> {
> - struct rq_flags rf;
> struct rq *rq;
>
> - if (READ_ONCE(p->__state) != TASK_WAKING)
> + /* Inactive timer is not armed. Nothing to migrate! */
> + if (task_on_rq_migrating(p) || !p->dl.dl_non_contending)
> return;
But a task can be blocked/sleeping and non_contending if
task_non_contending() was called after 0-lag; in that case running_bw
was subtracted already (see zerolag_time < 0 -> dl_task case) but ..
> - rq = task_rq(p);
> + /* Task must be fully blocked if we reach here. */
> + WARN_ON_ONCE(!p->is_blocked);
> +
> /*
> - * Since p->state == TASK_WAKING, set_task_cpu() has been called
> - * from try_to_wake_up(). Hence, p->pi_lock is locked, but
> - * rq->lock is not... So, lock it
> + * set_task_cpu() has been called from try_to_wake_up().
> + * Hence, p->pi_lock is locked, but rq->lock is not...
> + * So, lock it
> */
> - rq_lock(rq, &rf);
> + rq = task_rq(p);
> + guard(rq_lock)(rq);
> +
> if (p->dl.dl_non_contending) {
> update_rq_clock(rq);
> sub_running_bw(&p->dl, &rq->dl);
> @@ -2681,7 +2685,6 @@ static void migrate_task_rq_dl(struct task_struct *p, int new_cpu __maybe_unused
> cancel_inactive_timer(&p->dl);
> }
> sub_rq_bw(&p->dl, &rq->dl);
.. we still need to sub_rq_bw for a migrated task, and I believe what
you are proposing would skip that?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-10-28 10:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-10-23 22:04 [PATCH v33 0/7] Sleeping Owner Handling for Proxy Execution (v33) John Stultz
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 1/7] sched/psi: Preserve sleep-persistent PSI flags on off-CPU sleeping dequeues John Stultz
2026-10-24 11:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-10-26 5:00 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-26 4:32 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-26 5:16 ` Zhan Xusheng
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 2/7] sched/core: Use the scheduling context for remote ticks John Stultz
2026-10-24 13:44 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 3/7] sched/core: Activate blocked donor when no owner is found John Stultz
2026-10-24 8:33 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-26 3:02 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 4/7] sched/proxy: Set TASK_RUNNING when shortcuting return migration John Stultz
2026-10-24 8:36 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-26 3:09 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 5/7] sched/proxy: Break cyclic proxy chains by deactivating blocked tasks John Stultz
2026-10-24 21:19 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 6/7] sched/proxy: Detect cycles in proxy walks earlier John Stultz
2026-10-24 15:34 ` Kayra Cizmeci
2026-10-23 22:04 ` [PATCH v33 7/7] sched/proxy: Add deactivated (sleeping) owner handling to find_proxy_task() John Stultz
2026-10-24 9:07 ` Andrea Righi
2026-10-26 4:26 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-27 16:22 ` Juri Lelli
2026-10-28 3:36 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-28 10:01 ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2026-10-28 10:11 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-28 10:36 ` Juri Lelli
2026-10-26 7:40 ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-10-26 19:59 ` Kayra Cizmeci
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