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From: Harry Yoo <harry@kernel.org>
To: Hao Li <hao.li@linux.dev>
Cc: "Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)" <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Christoph Lameter <cl@gentwo.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	 Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	 Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
	Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v2 3/8] mm, slab: rework KMALLOC_RECLAIM handling of SLUB_TINY
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2026 15:19:01 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <auycUvCC2mL_EQ1r@thinkstation> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <auHcj2G78VkXy-Vz@fedora>

On Wed, Oct 28, 2026 at 07:43:14PM +0800, Hao Li wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 24, 2026 at 09:07:25PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) wrote:
> > One (relatively minor) aspect of CONFIG_SLUB_TINY is the assumption that
> > letting reclaimable and non-reclaimable caches merge will save more
> > memory, which is more important on small systems than the page allocator
> > level fragmentation (where distinguishing reclaimable slabs should
> > help).
> > 
> > For now that has been achieved by #ifdefs that result in making the
> > SLAB_RECLAIM_ACCOUNT no-op and aliasing KMALLOC_RECLAIM to
> > KMALLOC_NORMAL on the enum values level.
> > 
> > With the goal of converting CONFIG_SLUB_TINY to a boot-time decision,
> > rework this so that SLAB_RECLAIM_ACCOUNT and KMALLOC_RECLAIM are
> > distinctly defined always. Now, creation of kmalloc-rcl caches is
> > avoided by assigning a pointer to the normal kmalloc cache on the
> > kmalloc_caches array level.
> > 
> > To prepare disconnecting of this boot-time decision (and the evaluation
> > of the need for kmalloc_no_objext) from CONFIG_SLUB_TINY, introduce a
> > slub_tiny_enabled variable that's initialized to the CONFIG_SLUB_TINY
> > state.
> > 
> > There is one minor functional change for CONFIG_SLUB_TINY=y. Since
> > SLAB_RECLAIM_ACCOUNT is not 0 anymore, caches that differ only in that
> > flag will stop being mergeable. If that turns out to have a noticeable
> > impact on memory footprint, we can adjust the merging decisions to
> > ignore SLAB_RECLAIM_ACCOUNT when slub_tiny_enabled is true.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka (SUSE) <vbabka@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/slab.h | 10 ----------
> >  mm/slab.h            |  5 +++--
> >  mm/slab_common.c     | 12 ++++++------
> >  mm/slub.c            |  2 ++
> 
> [...]
> 
> > diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
> > index 02dfe4351e8b..33e76a0c3084 100644
> > --- a/mm/slab_common.c
> > +++ b/mm/slab_common.c
> > @@ -1009,7 +1009,7 @@ new_kmalloc_cache(int idx, enum kmalloc_cache_type type)
> >  	 * KMALLOC_NO_OBJ_EXT cache.
> >  	 */
> >  	if (!mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled()) {
> > -		if (type == KMALLOC_NORMAL && KMALLOC_RECLAIM != KMALLOC_NORMAL)
> > +		if (type == KMALLOC_NORMAL && !slab_tiny_enabled)
> 
> (While reviewing Harry's patch [1], I happened to notice a small inconsistency
> in the current code. Since these lines are being touched in this series, I
> figured I'd bring it up here, even though I haven't properly started reviewing
> this series yet :D)
> 
> IIUC, for both KMALLOC_NORMAL and KMALLOC_PARTITION_START + n, if gfp has
> __GFP_ACCOUNT set (and without __GFP_DMA/__GFP_RECLAIMABLE), the allocation is
> redirected to KMALLOC_CGROUP.

Right.

> This seems to mean that neither KMALLOC_NORMAL
> nor KMALLOC_PARTITION_START + n actually needs an objcg slot in obj_exts.

Right.

> Right now, KMALLOC_NORMAL already doesn't carry SLAB_MAY_ACCOUNT, but
> KMALLOC_PARTITION_START + n still does.

Ouch, good catch!

> Given that, would it make sense to
> change this line to something like:
> 
> if (type >= KMALLOC_PARTITION_START && type <= KMALLOC_PARTITION_END &&
> 	!slab_tiny_enabled)

Maybe you could send a patch as it's a separate issue from the patchset?

> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20261021-memalloc-prof-dont-waste-slabobj-ext-metadata-v1-0-096800aa3330@kernel.org/

-- 
Cheers,
Harry / Hyeonggon

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-05 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-24 19:07 [PATCH RFC v2 0/8] replace CONFIG_SLUB_TINY with a slab_tiny boot parameter Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 1/8] mm, slab: refactor slab_min/max_order handling Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 2/8] mm, slab: introduce slab_debug=N Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 3/8] mm, slab: rework KMALLOC_RECLAIM handling of SLUB_TINY Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-28 11:43   ` Hao Li
2026-11-05 15:19     ` Harry Yoo [this message]
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 4/8] mm, slab: make SLUB_TINY handling dynamic for sizing decisions Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 5/8] mm, slab: convert CONFIG_SLUB_TINY checks to kmem_cache_debug() Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 6/8] mm, slab: remove remaining compile-time checks for CONFIG_SLUB_TINY Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] mm, slab: add slab_tiny boot param Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)
2026-10-24 19:07 ` [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] mm, slab: deprecate CONFIG_SLUB_TINY and reduce its Kconfig effects Vlastimil Babka (SUSE)

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