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From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" <ljs@kernel.org>
To: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	 Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	 Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	 Brendan Jackman <brendan.jackman@linux.dev>,
	Zi Yan <ziy@nvidia.com>,
	 Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm/page_alloc: only skip kswapd nodes below their kswapd watermark
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2026 19:55:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <avYQcqVZvRevtCxM@gremlin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261110224432.2347606-1-joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 10, 2026 at 02:44:31PM -0800, Joshua Hahn wrote:
> Commit 19c5fb83f2a4 ("mm: page_alloc: avoid kswapd thrashing due to
> NUMA restrictions") makes get_page_from_freelist() skip any node with an
> active kswapd on the first pass through the zonelist, so unrestricted
> allocations don't immediately consume the memory kswapd is freeing.
>
> But kswapd is also woken for high-order requests. With THP defrag set to
> defer, each THP fault that fails on a fragmented node wakes kswapd at
> PMD order. kswapd reclaims a batch, wakes kcompactd, and sleeps until
> the next failed fault, so it stays awake much of the time even on a node
> with plenty of free order-0 memory. This means those order-0 allocations
> get directed elsewhere.
>
> This was observed on some Meta production workloads running on 2-NUMA
> systems, where processes with a preference for node0 allocations
> continuously allocated order-0 pages on node1, despite node0 having
> hundreds of GB of free memory.
>
> Only skip a zone with an active kswapd if it is also below kswapd's
> target watermark.
>
> On a 2-NUMA VM with a 60G node0 and a 20G node1, with THP enabled=always
> and defrag=defer, I ran a process that prefers allocating on node0.
> With a fragmented node0:
> - Before the patch, 68% of pages were served from node0
> - After the patch, 100% of pages were served from node0
>
> One remaining gap is that since this uses kswapd's own threshold,
> unrestricted allocations can take what kswapd frees above the target
> watermark. The current code already lets such allocations drain from the
> high to the low watermark while kswapd sleeps.
>
> One potential solution, as hinted by Johannes in the discussion from the
> original fix [1] is to add some kind of fudge factor (for instance,
> wmark_pages + high_wmark_pages - low_wmark_pages).
>
> But in tests that I ran in a VM where the allocation demand outpaces
> kswapd, about 4% more pages landed on the busy node and kswapd reclaimed
> about 15% more, but kswapd still finished and slept. So let's hold off
> on the fudge factor until it becomes an observable issue in workloads.
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20251001164131.GB1597553@cmpxchg.org/
>
> Fixes: 19c5fb83f2a4 ("mm: page_alloc: avoid kswapd thrashing due to NUMA restrictions")
> Suggested-by: Daniel Hodges <hodgesd@meta.com>
> Signed-off-by: Joshua Hahn <joshua.hahnjy@gmail.com>

LGTM and:

Reviewed-by: Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) <ljs@kernel.org>

> ---
> v1 --> v2:
> - Added a Fixes tag and separated this from the other cleanup patches
> - Check zone_watermark_fast with no flag to match the call in
>   pgdat_balanced().
> - Calculates mark outside the zone_watermark_fast check to match the
>   style for the other zone checks.
> - Wordsmithing commit message to explain the unaddressed gap.
> - Yes, this is ugly. I have another series to clean this code up but
>   I wanted this to be a feature-minimal patch so that it could be
>   easily backported. Things will be much prettier once those are landed.
>
>  mm/page_alloc.c | 23 ++++++++++++++++-------
>  1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> index 8532af052d74b..56121c3f9c4a7 100644
> --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> @@ -45,6 +45,7 @@
>  #include <linux/mmu_notifier.h>
>  #include <linux/migrate.h>
>  #include <linux/sched/mm.h>
> +#include <linux/sched/sysctl.h>
>  #include <linux/page_owner.h>
>  #include <linux/page_table_check.h>
>  #include <linux/memcontrol.h>
> @@ -3799,6 +3800,9 @@ get_page_from_freelist(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order, int alloc_flags,
>  	struct zoneref *z;
>  	struct zone *zone;
>  	struct pglist_data *last_pgdat = NULL;
> +	enum zone_watermarks kswapd_watermark =
> +		sysctl_numa_balancing_mode & NUMA_BALANCING_MEMORY_TIERING ?
> +		WMARK_PROMO : WMARK_HIGH;
>  	bool last_pgdat_dirty_ok = false;
>  	bool no_fallback;
>  	bool skip_kswapd_nodes = nr_online_nodes > 1;
> @@ -3866,16 +3870,21 @@ get_page_from_freelist(gfp_t gfp_mask, unsigned int order, int alloc_flags,
>  		}
>
>  		/*
> -		 * If kswapd is already active on a node, keep looking
> -		 * for other nodes that might be idle. This can happen
> -		 * if another process has NUMA bindings and is causing
> -		 * kswapd wakeups on only some nodes. Avoid accidental
> -		 * "node_reclaim_mode"-like behavior in this case.
> +		 * If kswapd is already active on a node and the zone is below
> +		 * its kswapd watermark for this request, keep looking for
> +		 * other nodes that might be idle. This can happen if another
> +		 * process has NUMA bindings and is causing kswapd wakeups on
> +		 * only some nodes. Avoid accidental "node_reclaim_mode"-like
> +		 * behavior in this case.
>  		 */
>  		if (skip_kswapd_nodes &&
>  		    !waitqueue_active(&zone->zone_pgdat->kswapd_wait)) {
> -			skipped_kswapd_nodes = true;
> -			continue;
> +			mark = wmark_pages(zone, kswapd_watermark);
> +			if (!zone_watermark_fast(zone, order, mark,
> +					ac->highest_zoneidx, 0, gfp_mask)) {
> +				skipped_kswapd_nodes = true;
> +				continue;
> +			}

Much better thanks!

>  		}
>
>  		cond_accept_memory(zone, order, alloc_flags);
> --
> 2.53.0-Meta
>

--
Cheers, Lorenzo

      parent reply	other threads:[~2026-11-12 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-11-10 22:44 Joshua Hahn
2026-11-11 17:39 ` Jose A. Perez de Azpillaga
2026-11-12  6:18 ` Gregory Price (Meta)
2026-11-12 18:52   ` Joshua Hahn
2026-11-12 16:22 ` Zi Yan
2026-11-12 16:37 ` Johannes Weiner
2026-11-12 19:55 ` Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) [this message]

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