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From: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@gmail.com>
To: "Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>
Cc: "Pekka J Enberg" <penberg@cs.helsinki.fi>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 7/9] Remove some of the kmemleak false positives
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 23:24:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b0943d9e0606121524x1ee55e25rdfa41e5d1edf9dbc@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060612192227.GA5497@elte.hu>

On 12/06/06, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
>
> * Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 12/06/06, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu> wrote:
> > >What i'd like to see though are clear explanations about why an
> > >allocation is not considered a leak, in terms of comments added to the
> > >code. That will also help us reduce the number of annotations later on.
> >
> > I'll document them in both Documentation/kmemleak.txt and inside the
> > code. If I implement the "any pointer inside the block" method, all
> > the memleak_padding() false positives will disappear.
>
> i dont know - i feel uneasy about the 'any pointer' method - it has a
> high potential for false negatives, especially for structures that
> contain strings (or other random data), etc.

That's my concern as well. The advantage is that it simplifies
kmemleak but I can't tell how good the detection would be. I can add
some code to the current implementation to show how many values (32
bit aligned) found during scanning look like valid pointers (i.e.
PAGE_OFFSET < x < PAGE_OFFSET + ram_size) but cannot be found in the
radix_tree. It might not be that bad (I'll post tomorrow some
statistics).

> did you consider the tracking of the types of allocated blocks
> explicitly? I'd expect that most blocks dont have pointers embedded in
> them that point to allocated blocks. For the ones that do, the
> allocation could be extended with the type information. For each
> affected type, we could annotate the structures themselves with offset
> information. How intrusive would such a method be?

Do you mean that when scanning it should only consider at the pointer
members in a structure? I don't think this can be easily achieved
because of the amount of structures in the kernel. There are places
where a pointer is stored as a long. There is also no way in C to
quantify the type of an object (similar to "typeid" in C++). The
closest approximation I could get was the size.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2006-06-12 22:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-06-11 11:18 [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 0/9] Kernel memory leak detector 0.7 Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 1/9] Base support for kmemleak Catalin Marinas
2006-06-13 11:14   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-13 12:47     ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 2/9] Some documentation " Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 3/9] Add the memory allocation/freeing hooks " Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 4/9] Modules support " Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 5/9] Add kmemleak support for i386 Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 6/9] Add kmemleak support for ARM Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:21 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 7/9] Remove some of the kmemleak false positives Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12  5:19   ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-12  8:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12  8:17       ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-12  8:43         ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12 10:53         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 11:08           ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-12 11:36             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 11:56               ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-12 12:53                 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12 13:12                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 14:38                   ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12 22:29                   ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12 12:56           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12 19:22             ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-12 22:24               ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2006-06-13  5:53               ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-13  6:59                 ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-13  7:57                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-13  9:45                     ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-13 10:04                       ` Pekka Enberg
2006-06-13 10:37                         ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-13  7:26                 ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-13  8:11                   ` Pekka J Enberg
2006-06-13 10:49                   ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-14  4:07                     ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-14  5:46                       ` Andi Kleen
2006-06-14  5:53                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2006-06-14 12:03                         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-14 13:46                           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-14 13:35                         ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-14 13:21                       ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-12  9:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2006-06-12  9:35         ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-24 10:20     ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-24 10:22       ` Ingo Molnar
2006-06-24 10:55         ` Catalin Marinas
2006-07-24 11:15         ` Ingo Molnar
2006-07-24 13:28           ` Catalin Marinas
2006-08-03  6:32             ` Jakub Jelinek
2006-08-03  8:31               ` Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:22 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 8/9] Simple testing for kmemleak Catalin Marinas
2006-06-11 11:22 ` [PATCH 2.6.17-rc6 9/9] Keep the __init functions after initialization Catalin Marinas

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