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From: "Fred Trotter" <fred.trotter@gmail.com>
To: "Al Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Introducing Fredux: a redundant project
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:24:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b317600c0804210924i328e7e68p96702d0445c3f1ff@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080411164009.GL9785@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>

Thanks for replying, responses throughout.

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:38:36AM -0500, Fred Trotter wrote:
>  > http://www.fredtrotter.com/2007/11/27/foss-sin-pointless-duplication-of-effort/
>
>  Far more interesting question: who _cares_?  The notion of "legitimacy" in
>  that context is, AFAICS, based on unfounded assumption that there somebody
>  owes you something - be it their time, their "loyalty", etc.  Developers'
>  minds are not resources you might have a claim upon.

Agreed. But those developers certainly have a claim upon their own
time. Having spent a year working on the "wrong" project, I would have
been much happier if someone had told me that the project was not
"legitimate" compared to other projects. I was contributing to someone
else under false pretenses. It certainly frustrated me and I would
expect that others would have felt the same way. Would it be clearer
if I put this more strongly into the text?



>
>  As as aside, ESR's understanding of the mechanisms making developers'
>  community work had been repeatedly proven to be... inadequate.  FWIW, he
>  seems to be trying to shoehorn everything into an ideology and results are
>  laughable.

ESR might be right... he might be wrong... I am more interested in the
evaluation of my ideas against what "really" happens in the kernel
community. What are the rules here?


-- 
Fred Trotter
http://www.fredtrotter.com

      reply	other threads:[~2008-04-21 16:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-11 15:38 Fred Trotter
2008-04-11 16:40 ` Al Viro
2008-04-21 16:24   ` Fred Trotter [this message]

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