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From: "Dmitry Adamushko" <dmitry.adamushko@gmail.com>
To: "Max Krasnyansky" <maxk@qualcomm.com>
Cc: "Peter Oruba" <peter.oruba@amd.com>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@elte.hu>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Tigran Aivazian" <tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] x86: AMD microcode patch loading v2 fixes
Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 22:59:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b647ffbd0807301359w7684106cya002c5ad2940800d@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48909CC5.5090305@qualcomm.com>

2008/7/30 Max Krasnyansky <maxk@qualcomm.com>:
>
> Dmitry Adamushko wrote:
>> 2008/7/30 Peter Oruba <peter.oruba@amd.com>:
>>>> [ ... ]
>>> Since ucode updates may fix severe issues, it is supposed to happen as early
>>> as possible. If you re-plug your CPU into your socket, your BIOS also
>>> applies a ucode patch, but that won't necessarily be the latest and critical
>>> one.
> Sure. The question is would not workqueue be soon enough ?
> I'd say it is given the non-deterministic CPU hotplug callback sequence.

Max, cpu-hotplug callbacks might have been not the best choice in the
first place. So a comparison with them is not that relevant :-)

>
>> Hum, let's say we don't do it from cpu-hotplug handlers [1] but from
>> start_secondary() before calling cpu_idle()? [*]
>>
>> This way, we do it before any other task may have a chance to run on a
>> cpu which is not a case with cpu-hotplug handlers
>> (and we don't mess-up with cpu-hotplug events :-)
>>
>> [ the drawback is that 'microcode' subsystem is not local to
>> microcode.c anymore ]
>>
>> [1] if we need a sync. operation in cpu-hotplug handlers and IPI is
>> not ok (say, we need to run in a sleepablel context) then perhaps it's
>> workqueues + wait_on_cpu_work(). But then it's not a bit later than
>> could have been with [*].
> Why would not IPI be ok ? From looking at the code all we have to do is to
> factor request_firmware() out of the update path. So we'd do
> collect_cpu_info() in the IPI, then do request_firwmare() inplace and then do
> apply_microcode() in the IPI. ie The only thing that sleeps is request_firmware().

I think it's quite a complecated scheme. I still wonder whether e.g.
start_secondary() - cpu_idle() would be a better place or we just move
set_cpu(cpu, cpu_active_map) a bit :^)

But you know, at least short-term, it'd be nice if whoever might come
up with any working solution. It's already -rc1 and this thing is
still broken ;-)

btw., I've greped for "set_cpus_allowed_ptr()" and the following
scheme seems to be quite wide-spread (didn't check all of them so
maybe someone else does call it from cpu-hotplug notifications, heh)

        cpus_allowed = current->cpus_allowed;
        set_cpus_allowed_ptr(current, cpus);
        // do_something
        set_cpus_allowed_ptr(current, &cpus_allowed);

but _not_ safely used indeed. argh


>
> Max
>

-- 
Best regards,
Dmitry Adamushko

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-30 21:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-29 15:41 Peter Oruba
2008-07-29 15:41 ` [patch 1/4] x86: AMD microcode patch loader style corrections Peter Oruba
2008-07-29 15:41 ` [patch 2/4] x86: Intel " Peter Oruba
2008-07-29 15:41 ` [patch 3/4] x86: Moved function declarations out from AMD microcode patch loader to heade file Peter Oruba
2008-07-29 15:41 ` [patch 4/4] x86: Minor pointer type cast in AMD microcode patch loader Peter Oruba
2008-07-29 16:18 ` [patch 0/4] x86: AMD microcode patch loading v2 fixes Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-29 17:49   ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-29 19:37     ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-30  9:28     ` Peter Oruba
2008-07-30  9:57       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-30 10:34         ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-30 16:35           ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-30 18:38             ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-31 21:24               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-08-01  2:23                 ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-30 16:54         ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-07-30 20:59           ` Dmitry Adamushko [this message]
2008-08-01  2:18             ` Max Krasnyansky
2008-08-01 11:25       ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-08-01 12:21         ` Peter Oruba
2008-08-01 15:26         ` H. Peter Anvin
2008-07-31 21:27 ` Ingo Molnar
2008-07-31 22:02   ` Dmitry Adamushko
2008-07-31 22:12     ` Ingo Molnar

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