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From: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Robert Mader <robert.mader@collabora.com>,
	"Borah, Chaitanya Kumar" <chaitanya.kumar.borah@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Stone <daniels@collabora.com>,
	Uma Shankar <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
	Louis Chauvet <louis.chauvet@bootlin.com>,
	Melissa Wen <mwen@igalia.com>, Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@collabora.com>,
	Leandro Ribeiro <leandro.ribeiro@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] drm: Guard DRM_CLIENT_CAP_PLANE_COLOR_PIPELINE
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 09:55:13 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b670d594-0582-4c91-8264-88d1de5de1d8@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2fa23cb1-b4c9-459b-a0dc-31960313a243@amd.com>



On 2026-07-13 16:05, Harry Wentland wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2026-07-09 07:49, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
>> Hey,
>>
>> On 7/9/26 13:14, Robert Mader wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 09.07.26 12:02, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> On 7/9/26 08:44, Borah, Chaitanya Kumar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/7/2026 6:31 PM, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/7/26 10:03, Borah, Chaitanya Kumar wrote:
>>>>>>> On 7/3/2026 1:02 PM, Robert Mader wrote:
>>>>>>>> The client cap is currently advertised unconditionally, even for drivers
>>>>>>>> that do not support plane color pipelines. If clients supporting the later,
>>>>>>> s/later/latter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> like Wayland compositors or tools like drm_info, enable the client cap on
>>>>>>>> such drivers they will be left without both color pipeline and the legacy
>>>>>>>> properties COLOR_ENCODING and COLOR_RANGE, effectively breaking YUV->RGB
>>>>>>>> conversion support.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Prevent that by only marking the cap supported if there are actually planes
>>>>>>>> with color pipelines.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note: while the color pipeline replacement for the legacy properties is
>>>>>>>> still under review (1), we can assume that it will work as a drop-in
>>>>>>>> replacement.
>>>>>>> This change will but a driver can also choose to export colorops like programmable CTM_3x4 to achieve the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should also perhaps document this somewhere that if a driver supports LEGACY properties, it is imperative to implement some version of it with the color pipeline line property.
>>>>>> Would this be doable inside drm core? Implement the color pipeline properties, get the fixed pipeline for free?
>>>>> Right now, the Bypass(default) pipeline is automatically created when we call drm_plane_create_color_pipeline_property(), we could come up with a similar helper that could also create a pipeline that replaces the legacy properties.
>>>>>
>>>>> But this can't replace the existing helper entirely because some HW (though unlikely) might not support YUV buffers.
>>>> No need to do this for free, but a cheaper way for drivers to implement legacy
>>>> properties by only implementing the pipeline would be nice, similar to how
>>>> atomic also implements legacy modesetting and universal planes.
>>>
>>> I really like this idea - should we take it to the corresponding series, https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20260623164812.81110-1-harry.wentland@amd.com/ so the initial implementations for AMD and VKMS directly do so?
>>
>> That would be great!
>>
> 
> If I understand you correctly you suggest to map legacy COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING to the new FIXED_MATRIX colorop in a generic way, instead of having drivers advertise them separately. Do I have that right?
> 
> It's probably a good idea. It should be easy to make that change after merging the Fixed Matrix series with YUV support.
> 

I sketched this out but both VKMS and amdgpu have HW generations
or configs where no color pipeline is created. For that we still
need the current way of COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING handling.
Because of this the code to create COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING
based on the color pipeline is not really simplifying things, but
merely adding more code.

At this point I am not convinced adding helpers to create COLOR_RANGE
and COLOR_ENCODING based on the color pipeline is a net positive.
Maybe in the future that equation changes.

If anyone is interested I'm still happy to share the code. Just
let me know.

Harry

> Harry
> 
>> Kind regards,
>> ~Maarten Lankhorst
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03  7:32 Robert Mader
2026-07-03 11:11 ` Melissa Wen
2026-07-07  8:03 ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2026-07-07 13:01   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-07 13:15     ` Robert Mader
2026-07-07 14:17       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-09  6:44     ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2026-07-09 10:02       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-09 11:14         ` Robert Mader
2026-07-09 11:49           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-13 20:05             ` Harry Wentland
2026-07-21 13:55               ` Harry Wentland [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <9339663a-a0ed-4b7d-968e-1ced87db7c65@collabora.com>
2026-07-21 14:39                   ` Harry Wentland
2026-07-07  8:26 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-07  8:31   ` Robert Mader

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