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From: Harry Wentland <harry.wentland@amd.com>
To: Robert Mader <robert.mader@collabora.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	"Borah, Chaitanya Kumar" <chaitanya.kumar.borah@intel.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Stone <daniels@collabora.com>,
	Uma Shankar <uma.shankar@intel.com>,
	Louis Chauvet <louis.chauvet@bootlin.com>,
	Melissa Wen <mwen@igalia.com>, Simon Ser <contact@emersion.fr>,
	Pekka Paalanen <pekka.paalanen@collabora.com>,
	Leandro Ribeiro <leandro.ribeiro@collabora.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] drm: Guard DRM_CLIENT_CAP_PLANE_COLOR_PIPELINE
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2026 10:39:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c18739cd-0b66-45f9-8637-67ac1f95b29b@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9339663a-a0ed-4b7d-968e-1ced87db7c65@collabora.com>



On 2026-07-21 10:15, Robert Mader wrote:
> Hi Harry,
> 
> On 21.07.26 15:55, Harry Wentland wrote:
>>>> ...
>>> If I understand you correctly you suggest to map legacy COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING to the new FIXED_MATRIX colorop in a generic way, instead of having drivers advertise them separately. Do I have that right?
>>>
>>> It's probably a good idea. It should be easy to make that change after merging the Fixed Matrix series with YUV support.
>>>
>> I sketched this out but both VKMS and amdgpu have HW generations
>> or configs where no color pipeline is created. For that we still
>> need the current way of COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING handling.
>> Because of this the code to create COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING
>> based on the color pipeline is not really simplifying things, but
>> merely adding more code.
>>
>> At this point I am not convinced adding helpers to create COLOR_RANGE
>> and COLOR_ENCODING based on the color pipeline is a net positive.
>> Maybe in the future that equation changes.
>>
>> If anyone is interested I'm still happy to share the code. Just
>> let me know.
>>
>> Harry
> 
> thanks for taking a look! I'd be very interested - mainly because in my understanding the "both VKMS and amdgpu have HW generations or configs where no color pipeline is created" should be fixable:
> 
>  1. For amdgpu every hardware generation supporting COLOR_RANGE and COLOR_ENCODING should be able to create a color pipeline *only* exposing the corresponding FIXED_MATRIX colorop, mapping to the exact same hardware block internally. I hope that shouldn't conflict too much with the current architecture?
>  2. In case of VKMS the "enable_plane_pipeline" config could be adopted so that - if it is disabled - the plane pipeline is still initialized but only the FIXED_MATRIX colorop is added. Additionally we would need to disable DRM_CLIENT_CAP_PLANE_COLOR_PIPELINE - possibly by a driver cap similar to v1 of this series - so that userspace can't enable/use the colop-op directly. As a result, VKMS with enable_plane_pipeline=0 should get the legacy properties via your helper, be able to drop explicit handling of them.
> 
> Does that make sense / do you think that could work?
> 

That makes sense and yes, it could work. If I have time I
might give that a try.

I'm worried we'd be still adding overhead by creating this
fixed-matrix-only pipeline, but once we have code it'd be
easy to see.

Harry

> Best regards,
> 
> Robert
> 
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> Robert Mader
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-07-21 14:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-03  7:32 Robert Mader
2026-07-03 11:11 ` Melissa Wen
2026-07-07  8:03 ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2026-07-07 13:01   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-07 13:15     ` Robert Mader
2026-07-07 14:17       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-09  6:44     ` Borah, Chaitanya Kumar
2026-07-09 10:02       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-09 11:14         ` Robert Mader
2026-07-09 11:49           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-13 20:05             ` Harry Wentland
2026-07-21 13:55               ` Harry Wentland
     [not found]                 ` <9339663a-a0ed-4b7d-968e-1ced87db7c65@collabora.com>
2026-07-21 14:39                   ` Harry Wentland [this message]
2026-07-07  8:26 ` Maarten Lankhorst
2026-07-07  8:31   ` Robert Mader

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