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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>, <peterz@infradead.org>,
	<mingo@redhat.com>, <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	<vincent.guittot@linaro.org>
Cc: <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>, <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	<bsegall@google.com>, <mgorman@suse.de>, <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <patches@amperecomputing.com>,
	<cl@linux.com>, <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	<vineethr@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 13:30:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ba9f47fc-4465-4db8-93e3-fe86c619bdef@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cf3dbcfe-3c26-48e3-b32f-6473c8dbeb06@os.amperecomputing.com>

Hello Adam,

On 11/29/2024 1:10 PM, Adam Li wrote:
> On 11/29/2024 12:28 PM, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> 
>>>> I also see PSI splats like:
>>>>
>>>>       psi: inconsistent task state! task=2524:kworker/u1028:2 cpu=154 psi_flags=10 clear=14 set=0
>>>>
>>>> but the PSI flags it has set "(TSK_MEMSTALL_RUNNING | TSK_MEMSTALL)" and
>>>> the flags it is trying to clear
>>>> "(TSK_MEMSTALL_RUNNING | TSK_MEMSTALL | TSK_RUNNING)" seem to be only
>>>> possible if you have picked a dequeued entity for running before its
>>>> wakeup, which is also perhaps why the "nr_running" computation goes awry
>>>> and pick_eevdf() returns NULL (which it should never since
>>>> pick_next_entity() is only called when rq->cfs.nr_running is > 0)
>>> IIUC, one path for pick_eevdf() to return NULL is:
>>> pick_eevdf():
>>> <snip>
>>>      if (curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))
>>>          curr = NULL; <--- curr is set to NULL
>>
>> "on_rq" is only cleared when the entity is dequeued so "curr" is in fact
>> going to sleep (proper sleep) and we've reached at pick_eevdf(),
>> otherwise, if "curr" is not eligible, there is at least one more tasks
>> on the cfs_rq which implies best has be found and will be non-null.
>>
> if curr->sched_delayed == 1, the condition: '(curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))'
> can be true. Please correct me if wrong.

If curr is sched_delayed, that means it is going to sleep and it is
ineligible but it can only be ineligible if there is at least one more
task with a lower vruntime and hence best must be found. A delayed
entity will also not decrement the "nr_running" and it'll be queued back
from put_prev_entity() to be picked off later.

Essentially, I believe curr can never be ineligible in absence of other
eligible tasks.

> 
>>> <snip>
>>> found:
>>>      if (!best || (curr && entity_before(curr, best)))
>>>          best = curr; <--- curr and best are both NULL
>>
>> Say "curr" is going to sleep, and there is no "best", in which case
>> "curr" is already blocked and "cfs_rq->nr_running" should be 0 and it
>> should have not reached pick_eevdf() in the first place since
>> pick_next_entity() is only called by pick_task_fair() if
>> "cfs_rq->nr_running" is non-zero.
>>
>> So as long as "cfs_rq->nr_running" is non-zero, pick_eevdf() should
>> return a valid runnable entity. Failure to do so perhaps points to
>> "entity_eligible()" check going sideways somewhere or a bug in
>> "nr_running" accounting.
>>
>> Chenyu had proposed a similar fix long back in
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240226082349.302363-1-yu.c.chen@intel.com/
>> but the consensus was it was covering up a larger problem which
>> then boiled down to avg_vruntime being computed incorrectly
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ZiAWTU5xb%2FJMn%2FHs@chenyu5-mobl2/
>>
> Thanks for the information.
>  From the timeline, it seems the issue is before 152e11f6df29 ("sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue").
> DELAY_DEQUEUE may introduce risk for pick_eevdf() return NULL.

Ideally it shouldn't since delayed entities are still captured in
"cfs_rq->nr_running" and they'll eventually become eligible and be
picked off but I may be wrong and I hope someone corrects me in which
case :)

> 
> After patch 1 ("Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled"), the NULL pointer panic disappears.
> Patch 2 ("Fix panic if pick_eevdf() returns NULL") is a safe guard.
> 
> Thanks,
> -adam
> 

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-29  8:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27  5:56 [PATCH v2 0/3] sched/fair: Fix NEXT_BUDDY panic and warning Adam Li
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled Adam Li
2024-11-28  7:29   ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29  3:21     ` Adam Li
2024-11-29  4:28       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29  7:40         ` Adam Li
2024-11-29  8:00           ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2024-11-29  9:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:15       ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Untangle NEXT_BUDDY and pick_next_task() Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:37           ` Adam Li
2024-11-29 11:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-06  6:47         ` Adam Li
2024-12-09 11:00         ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 17:46       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29 17:53         ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-12-03 16:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-03 16:48       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-12-09 11:00     ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Fix NEXT_BUDDY tip-bot2 for K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/fair: Fix panic if pick_eevdf() returns NULL Adam Li
2024-11-29  9:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sched/fair: Update comments regarding last and skip buddy Adam Li
2025-03-13  8:30   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-03-14  2:53     ` Adam Li

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