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From: Adam Li <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org
Cc: dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, patches@amperecomputing.com,
	cl@linux.com, christian.loehle@arm.com, vineethr@linux.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled
Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2024 15:40:21 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf3dbcfe-3c26-48e3-b32f-6473c8dbeb06@os.amperecomputing.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d16cc372-b4ae-473f-bf86-83469fbead99@amd.com>

On 11/29/2024 12:28 PM, K Prateek Nayak wrote:

>>> I also see PSI splats like:
>>>
>>>      psi: inconsistent task state! task=2524:kworker/u1028:2 cpu=154 psi_flags=10 clear=14 set=0
>>>
>>> but the PSI flags it has set "(TSK_MEMSTALL_RUNNING | TSK_MEMSTALL)" and
>>> the flags it is trying to clear
>>> "(TSK_MEMSTALL_RUNNING | TSK_MEMSTALL | TSK_RUNNING)" seem to be only
>>> possible if you have picked a dequeued entity for running before its
>>> wakeup, which is also perhaps why the "nr_running" computation goes awry
>>> and pick_eevdf() returns NULL (which it should never since
>>> pick_next_entity() is only called when rq->cfs.nr_running is > 0)
>> IIUC, one path for pick_eevdf() to return NULL is:
>> pick_eevdf():
>> <snip>
>>     if (curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))
>>         curr = NULL; <--- curr is set to NULL
> 
> "on_rq" is only cleared when the entity is dequeued so "curr" is in fact
> going to sleep (proper sleep) and we've reached at pick_eevdf(),
> otherwise, if "curr" is not eligible, there is at least one more tasks
> on the cfs_rq which implies best has be found and will be non-null.
> 
if curr->sched_delayed == 1, the condition: '(curr && (!curr->on_rq || !entity_eligible(cfs_rq, curr)))'
can be true. Please correct me if wrong.

>> <snip>
>> found:
>>     if (!best || (curr && entity_before(curr, best)))
>>         best = curr; <--- curr and best are both NULL
> 
> Say "curr" is going to sleep, and there is no "best", in which case
> "curr" is already blocked and "cfs_rq->nr_running" should be 0 and it
> should have not reached pick_eevdf() in the first place since
> pick_next_entity() is only called by pick_task_fair() if
> "cfs_rq->nr_running" is non-zero.
> 
> So as long as "cfs_rq->nr_running" is non-zero, pick_eevdf() should
> return a valid runnable entity. Failure to do so perhaps points to
> "entity_eligible()" check going sideways somewhere or a bug in
> "nr_running" accounting.
> 
> Chenyu had proposed a similar fix long back in
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20240226082349.302363-1-yu.c.chen@intel.com/
> but the consensus was it was covering up a larger problem which
> then boiled down to avg_vruntime being computed incorrectly
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/ZiAWTU5xb%2FJMn%2FHs@chenyu5-mobl2/
> 
Thanks for the information.
From the timeline, it seems the issue is before 152e11f6df29 ("sched/fair: Implement delayed dequeue").
DELAY_DEQUEUE may introduce risk for pick_eevdf() return NULL.

After patch 1 ("Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled"), the NULL pointer panic disappears.
Patch 2 ("Fix panic if pick_eevdf() returns NULL") is a safe guard.

Thanks,
-adam


  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-29  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27  5:56 [PATCH v2 0/3] sched/fair: Fix NEXT_BUDDY panic and warning Adam Li
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled Adam Li
2024-11-28  7:29   ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29  3:21     ` Adam Li
2024-11-29  4:28       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29  7:40         ` Adam Li [this message]
2024-11-29  8:00           ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29  9:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:15       ` [PATCH] sched/fair: Untangle NEXT_BUDDY and pick_next_task() Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:18         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 10:37           ` Adam Li
2024-11-29 11:45             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-06  6:47         ` Adam Li
2024-12-09 11:00         ` [tip: sched/core] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-29 17:46       ` [PATCH v2 1/3] sched/fair: Fix warning if NEXT_BUDDY enabled K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-29 17:53         ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-12-03 16:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-03 16:48       ` K Prateek Nayak
2024-12-09 11:00     ` [tip: sched/core] sched/fair: Fix NEXT_BUDDY tip-bot2 for K Prateek Nayak
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] sched/fair: Fix panic if pick_eevdf() returns NULL Adam Li
2024-11-29  9:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-11-27  5:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] sched/fair: Update comments regarding last and skip buddy Adam Li
2025-03-13  8:30   ` Madadi Vineeth Reddy
2025-03-14  2:53     ` Adam Li

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