From: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>,
Alejandro Jimenez <alejandro.j.jimenez@oracle.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
Vasant Hegde <vasant.hegde@amd.com>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 64/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Allow KVM to control need for GA log interrupts
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2025 18:13:02 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bba773d0-1ef9-4c9f-8728-9cf0888033ad@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z_fnrP4e77mKjdX9@google.com>
On 10/04/2025 16:45, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 09, 2025, Joao Martins wrote:
>> On 04/04/2025 20:39, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>> I would suggest holding off on this and the next one, while progressing with
>> the rest of the series.
>
> Agreed, though I think there's a "pure win" alternative that can be safely
> implemented (but it definitely should be done separately).
>
> If HLT-exiting is disabled for the VM, and the VM doesn't have access to the
> various paravirtual features that can put it into a synthetic HLT state (PV async
> #PF and/or Xen support), then I'm pretty sure GALogIntr can be disabled entirely,
> i.e. disabled during the initial irq_set_vcpu_affinity() and never enabled. KVM
> doesn't emulate HLT via its full emulator for AMD (just non-unrestricted Intel
> guests), so I'm pretty sure there would be no need for KVM to ever wake a vCPU in
> response to a device interrupt.
>
Done via IRQ affinity changes already a significant portion of the IRTE and it's
already on a slowpath that performs an invalidation, so via
irq_set_vcpu_affinity is definitely safe.
But even with HLT exits disabled; there's still preemption though? But I guess
that's a bit more rare if it's conditional to HLT exiting being enabled or not,
and whether there's only a single task running.
>>> diff --git a/drivers/iommu/amd/iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/amd/iommu.c
>>> index 2e016b98fa1b..27b03e718980 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/iommu/amd/iommu.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/iommu/amd/iommu.c
>>> -static void __amd_iommu_update_ga(struct irte_ga *entry, int cpu)
>>> +static void __amd_iommu_update_ga(struct irte_ga *entry, int cpu,
>>> + bool ga_log_intr)
>>> {
>>> if (cpu >= 0) {
>>> entry->lo.fields_vapic.destination =
>>> @@ -3783,12 +3784,14 @@ static void __amd_iommu_update_ga(struct irte_ga *entry, int cpu)
>>> entry->hi.fields.destination =
>>> APICID_TO_IRTE_DEST_HI(cpu);
>>> entry->lo.fields_vapic.is_run = true;
>>> + entry->lo.fields_vapic.ga_log_intr = false;
>>> } else {
>>> entry->lo.fields_vapic.is_run = false;
>>> + entry->lo.fields_vapic.ga_log_intr = ga_log_intr;
>>> }
>>> }
>>>
>>
>> isRun, Destination and GATag are not cached. Quoting the update from a few years
>> back (page 93 of IOMMU spec dated Feb 2025):
>>
>> | When virtual interrupts are enabled by setting MMIO Offset 0018h[GAEn] and
>> | IRTE[GuestMode=1], IRTE[IsRun], IRTE[Destination], and if present IRTE[GATag],
>> | are not cached by the IOMMU. Modifications to these fields do not require an
>> | invalidation of the Interrupt Remapping Table.
>
> Ooh, that's super helpful info. Any objections to me adding verbose comments to
> explain the effective rules for amd_iommu_update_ga()?
>
That's a great addition, it should have been there from the beginning when we
added the cacheviness of guest-mode IRTE into the mix.
>> This is the reason we were able to get rid of the IOMMU invalidation in
>> amd_iommu_update_ga() ... which sped up vmexit/vmenter flow with iommu avic.
>> Besides the lock contention that was observed at the time, we were seeing stalls
>> in this path with enough vCPUs IIRC; CCing Alejandro to keep me honest.
>>
>> Now this change above is incorrect as is and to make it correct: you will need
>> xor with the previous content of the IRTE::ga_log_intr and then if it changes
>> then you re-add back an invalidation command via
>> iommu_flush_irt_and_complete()). The latter is what I am worried will
>> reintroduce these above problem :(
>
> Ya, the need to flush definitely changes things.
>
>> The invalidation command (which has a completion barrier to serialize
>> invalidation execution) takes some time in h/w, and will make all your vcpus
>> content on the irq table lock (as is). Even assuming you somehow move the
>> invalidation outside the lock, you will content on the iommu lock (for the
>> command queue) or best case assuming no locks (which I am not sure it is
>> possible) you will need to wait for the command to complete until you can
>> progress forward with entering/exiting.
>>
>> Unless the GALogIntr bit is somehow also not cached too which wouldn't need the
>> invalidation command (which would be good news!). Adding Suravee/Vasant here.
>>
>> It's a nice trick how you would leverage this in SVM, but do you have
>> measurements that corroborate its introduction? How many unnecessary GALog
>> entries were you able to avoid with this trick say on a workload that would
>> exercise this (like netperf 1byte RR test that sleeps and wakes up a lot) ?
>
> I didn't do any measurements; I assumed the opportunistic toggling of GALogIntr
> would be "free".
>
> There might be optimizations that could be done, but I think the better solution
> is to simply disable GALogIntr when it's not needed. That'd limit the benefits
> to select setups, but trying to optimize IRQ bypass for VMs that are CPU-overcommited,
> i.e. can't do native HLT, seems rather pointless.
>
/me nods
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-04-10 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 128+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-04-04 19:38 [PATCH 00/67] KVM: iommu: Overhaul device posted IRQs support Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 01/67] KVM: SVM: Allocate IR data using atomic allocation Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 02/67] KVM: x86: Reset IRTE to host control if *new* route isn't postable Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 8:08 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-11 14:16 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-15 11:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 03/67] KVM: x86: Explicitly treat routing entry type changes as changes Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 04/67] KVM: x86: Take irqfds.lock when adding/deleting IRQ bypass producer Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 05/67] iommu/amd: Return an error if vCPU affinity is set for non-vCPU IRTE Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 8:34 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-11 14:05 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 17:02 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-11 19:30 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-18 12:25 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 06/67] iommu/amd: WARN if KVM attempts to set vCPU affinity without posted intrrupts Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 8:28 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-11 14:10 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 17:03 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-15 11:42 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-15 17:48 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-15 22:04 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-16 9:47 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-17 17:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 07/67] KVM: SVM: WARN if an invalid posted interrupt IRTE entry is added Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 08/67] KVM: x86: Pass new routing entries and irqfd when updating IRTEs Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 10:57 ` Arun Kodilkar, Sairaj
2025-04-11 14:01 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 17:22 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 09/67] KVM: SVM: Track per-vCPU IRTEs using kvm_kernel_irqfd structure Sean Christopherson
2025-04-11 7:47 ` Arun Kodilkar, Sairaj
2025-04-11 14:32 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 10/67] KVM: SVM: Delete IRTE link from previous vCPU before setting new IRTE Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 11/67] KVM: SVM: Delete IRTE link from previous vCPU irrespective of new routing Sean Christopherson
2025-04-15 11:06 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-15 14:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 12/67] KVM: SVM: Drop pointless masking of default APIC base when setting V_APIC_BAR Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 13/67] KVM: SVM: Drop pointless masking of kernel page pa's with AVIC HPA masks Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 14/67] KVM: SVM: Add helper to deduplicate code for getting AVIC backing page Sean Christopherson
2025-04-15 11:11 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-15 14:57 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 15/67] KVM: SVM: Drop vcpu_svm's pointless avic_backing_page field Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 16/67] KVM: SVM: Inhibit AVIC if ID is too big instead of rejecting vCPU creation Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 17/67] KVM: SVM: Drop redundant check in AVIC code on ID during " Sean Christopherson
2025-04-15 11:16 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 18/67] KVM: SVM: Track AVIC tables as natively sized pointers, not "struct pages" Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 19/67] KVM: SVM: Drop superfluous "cache" of AVIC Physical ID entry pointer Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 20/67] KVM: VMX: Move enable_ipiv knob to common x86 Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 21/67] KVM: SVM: Add enable_ipiv param, never set IsRunning if disabled Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 22/67] KVM: SVM: Disable (x2)AVIC IPI virtualization if CPU has erratum #1235 Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 23/67] KVM: VMX: Suppress PI notifications whenever the vCPU is put Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 24/67] KVM: SVM: Add a comment to explain why avic_vcpu_blocking() ignores IRQ blocking Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 25/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Use pi_desc_addr to derive ga_root_ptr Sean Christopherson
2025-04-18 12:24 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 26/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Delete now-unused cached/previous GA tag fields Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 16:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-08 22:25 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-18 12:25 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 27/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Pass NULL @vcpu_info to indicate "not guest mode" Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 28/67] KVM: SVM: Get vCPU info for IRTE using new routing entry Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 29/67] KVM: SVM: Stop walking list of routing table entries when updating IRTE Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 16:56 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 30/67] KVM: VMX: " Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 17:00 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-20 20:36 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 31/67] KVM: SVM: Extract SVM specific code out of get_pi_vcpu_info() Sean Christopherson
2025-04-23 15:21 ` Francesco Lavra
2025-04-23 15:55 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 32/67] KVM: x86: Nullify irqfd->producer after updating IRTEs Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 33/67] KVM: x86: Dedup AVIC vs. PI code for identifying target vCPU Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 17:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-08 20:51 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-24 4:39 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-04-24 14:13 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 34/67] KVM: x86: Move posted interrupt tracepoint to common code Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 35/67] KVM: SVM: Clean up return handling in avic_pi_update_irte() Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 36/67] iommu: KVM: Split "struct vcpu_data" into separate AMD vs. Intel structs Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 37/67] KVM: Don't WARN if updating IRQ bypass route fails Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 38/67] KVM: Fold kvm_arch_irqfd_route_changed() into kvm_arch_update_irqfd_routing() Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 39/67] KVM: x86: Track irq_bypass_vcpu in common x86 code Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 40/67] KVM: x86: Skip IOMMU IRTE updates if there's no old or new vCPU being targeted Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 41/67] KVM: x86: Don't update IRTE entries when old and new routes were !MSI Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 42/67] KVM: SVM: Revert IRTE to legacy mode if IOMMU doesn't provide IR metadata Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 43/67] KVM: SVM: Take and hold ir_list_lock across IRTE updates in IOMMU Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:38 ` [PATCH 44/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Infer IsRun from validity of pCPU destination Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 12:26 ` Joerg Roedel
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 45/67] iommu/amd: Factor out helper for manipulating IRTE GA/CPU info Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 46/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Set pCPU info in IRTE when setting vCPU affinity Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 47/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Add IRTE metadata to affined vCPU's list if AVIC is inhibited Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 48/67] KVM: SVM: Don't check for assigned device(s) when updating affinity Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 49/67] KVM: SVM: Don't check for assigned device(s) when activating AVIC Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 50/67] KVM: SVM: WARN if (de)activating guest mode in IOMMU fails Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 51/67] KVM: SVM: Process all IRTEs on affinity change even if one update fails Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 52/67] KVM: SVM: WARN if updating IRTE GA fields in IOMMU fails Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 53/67] KVM: x86: Drop superfluous "has assigned device" check in kvm_pi_update_irte() Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 54/67] KVM: x86: WARN if IRQ bypass isn't supported " Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 55/67] KVM: x86: WARN if IRQ bypass routing is updated without in-kernel local APIC Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 56/67] KVM: SVM: WARN if ir_list is non-empty at vCPU free Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 57/67] KVM: x86: Decouple device assignment from IRQ bypass Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 58/67] KVM: VMX: WARN if VT-d Posted IRQs aren't possible when starting " Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 59/67] KVM: SVM: Use vcpu_idx, not vcpu_id, for GA log tag/metadata Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 60/67] iommu/amd: WARN if KVM calls GA IRTE helpers without virtual APIC support Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 61/67] KVM: SVM: Fold avic_set_pi_irte_mode() into its sole caller Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 62/67] KVM: SVM: Don't check vCPU's blocking status when toggling AVIC on/off Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 17:51 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 63/67] KVM: SVM: Consolidate IRTE update " Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 64/67] iommu/amd: KVM: SVM: Allow KVM to control need for GA log interrupts Sean Christopherson
2025-04-09 11:56 ` Joao Martins
2025-04-10 15:45 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-10 17:13 ` Joao Martins [this message]
2025-04-10 17:29 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-18 12:17 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-18 18:48 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-23 10:21 ` Joao Martins
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 65/67] KVM: SVM: Generate GA log IRQs only if the associated vCPUs is blocking Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 17:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-08 21:31 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-04-09 10:34 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 66/67] *** DO NOT MERGE *** iommu/amd: Hack to fake IRQ posting support Sean Christopherson
2025-04-04 19:39 ` [PATCH 67/67] *** DO NOT MERGE *** KVM: selftests: WIP posted interrupts test Sean Christopherson
2025-04-08 12:44 ` [PATCH 00/67] KVM: iommu: Overhaul device posted IRQs support Joerg Roedel
2025-04-09 8:30 ` Vasant Hegde
2025-04-08 15:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-04-08 17:13 ` David Matlack
2025-05-23 23:52 ` David Matlack
2025-04-18 13:01 ` David Woodhouse
2025-04-18 16:22 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-15 12:08 ` Sairaj Kodilkar
2025-05-15 22:05 ` Sean Christopherson
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