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From: "David Hildenbrand (Arm)" <david@kernel.org>
To: Kaitao Cheng <kaitao.cheng@linux.dev>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vbabka@kernel.org,
	linmiaohe@huawei.com, nao.horiguchi@gmail.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
	wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com, tujinjiang@huawei.com,
	mgorman@techsingularity.net, chengkaitao@kylinos.cn,
	muchun.song@linux.dev, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip folios containing hwpoisoned pages
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2026 15:07:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc1b3255-99f7-49c8-bb52-bada6df80f72@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbd5ae06-b6da-48f6-9c46-188fb6ba9684@linux.dev>

On 10/20/26 13:27, Kaitao Cheng wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2026/10/11 21:14, Huang, Ying 写道:
>> Yuanhe Shu <xiangzao@linux.alibaba.com> writes:
>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, and nothing here replaces copy_mc.  Two things the check adds
>>> while that work is pending: on archs without copy_mc the plain copy
>>> does not fail, it consumes the poison - the same poison consumption
>>> commit 841a8bfcbad9 ("mm: prevent poison consumption when splitting
>>> THP") refused to risk on the split path, at your suggestion; and the
>>> refusal happens before the copy is attempted at all, while copy_mc
>>> recovers only during the read.  The check and copy_mc compose.
>>>
>>
>> Is it good to implement the trick in copy_mc_user_highpage() and
>> copy_mc_highpage() if the macro copy_mc_to_kernel is undefined?
> 
> On architectures with hardware error correction and exception recovery
> support, accessing faulty memory automatically triggers an exception,
> which itself guarantees atomicity.
> 
> On architectures without such support, even if we implement this logic
> in copy_mc_user_highpage() and copy_mc_highpage(), checking the hwpoison
> flag and copying the data remain two separate operations. They cannot
> be performed atomically, so there is still a race window between them,
> however small.

Yes. And you need proper architecture support to fix it?

> 
> Moving the hwpoison check after the copy might address this issue.
> Is there anything wrong with my understanding?

Will architectures that are not prepared for copy_mc_user_highpage() not simply
crash if they trigger an MCE during an access?

-- 
Cheers,

David

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-20 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 10:58 [PATCH 0/2] mm: don't migrate " Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm/compaction: skip " Yuanhe Shu
2026-09-28 12:12   ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-09-29  3:41     ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-11 13:14       ` Huang, Ying
2026-10-20  7:16         ` Yuanhe Shu
2026-10-20  7:52         ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)
2026-10-20 11:27         ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-20 13:07           ` David Hildenbrand (Arm) [this message]
2026-10-20 13:31             ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-10-10  8:35     ` Kaitao Cheng
2026-09-28 10:58 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm/migrate: refuse to migrate " Yuanhe Shu

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