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From: Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	Kuba Piecuch <jpiecuch@google.com>,
	Emil Tsalapatis <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	Daniel Hodges <hodgesd@meta.com>,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched_ext: Fix ops.dequeue() semantics
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2026 10:09:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc4be033-74f6-4370-8848-1944e8ba143c@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aYBWAzFDX8Rv-paN@gpd4>

On 2/2/26 07:45, Andrea Righi wrote:
> Hi Christian,
> 
> On Sun, Feb 01, 2026 at 10:47:22PM +0000, Christian Loehle wrote:
>> On 2/1/26 09:08, Andrea Righi wrote:
>>> Currently, ops.dequeue() is only invoked when the sched_ext core knows
>>> that a task resides in BPF-managed data structures, which causes it to
>>> miss scheduling property change events. In addition, ops.dequeue()
>>> callbacks are completely skipped when tasks are dispatched to non-local
>>> DSQs from ops.select_cpu(). As a result, BPF schedulers cannot reliably
>>> track task state.
>>>
>>> Fix this by guaranteeing that each task entering the BPF scheduler's
>>> custody triggers exactly one ops.dequeue() call when it leaves that
>>> custody, whether the exit is due to a dispatch (regular or via a core
>>> scheduling pick) or to a scheduling property change (e.g.
>>> sched_setaffinity(), sched_setscheduler(), set_user_nice(), NUMA
>>> balancing, etc.).
>>>
>>> BPF scheduler custody concept: a task is considered to be in "BPF
>>> scheduler's custody" when it has been queued in BPF-managed data
>>> structures and the BPF scheduler is responsible for its lifecycle.
>>> Custody ends when the task is dispatched to a local DSQ, selected by
>>> core scheduling, or removed due to a property change.
>>>
>>> Tasks directly dispatched to local DSQs (via %SCX_DSQ_LOCAL or
>>> %SCX_DSQ_LOCAL_ON) bypass the BPF scheduler entirely and are not in its
>>> custody. As a result, ops.dequeue() is not invoked for these tasks.
>>>
>>> To identify dequeues triggered by scheduling property changes, introduce
>>> the new ops.dequeue() flag %SCX_DEQ_SCHED_CHANGE: when this flag is set,
>>> the dequeue was caused by a scheduling property change.
>>>
>>> New ops.dequeue() semantics:
>>>  - ops.dequeue() is invoked exactly once when the task leaves the BPF
>>>    scheduler's custody, in one of the following cases:
>>>    a) regular dispatch: task was dispatched to a non-local DSQ (global
>>>       or user DSQ), ops.dequeue() called without any special flags set
>>>    b) core scheduling dispatch: core-sched picks task before dispatch,
>>>       dequeue called with %SCX_DEQ_CORE_SCHED_EXEC flag set
>>>    c) property change: task properties modified before dispatch,
>>>       dequeue called with %SCX_DEQ_SCHED_CHANGE flag set
>>>
>>> This allows BPF schedulers to:
>>>  - reliably track task ownership and lifecycle,
>>>  - maintain accurate accounting of managed tasks,
>>>  - update internal state when tasks change properties.
>>>
>>
>> So I have finally gotten around updating scx_storm to the new semantics,
>> see:
>> https://github.com/cloehle/scx/tree/cloehle/scx-storm-qmap-insert-local-dequeue-semantics
>>
>> I don't think the new ops.dequeue() are enough to make inserts to local-on
>> from anywhere safe, because it's still racing with dequeue from another CPU?
> 
> Yeah, with this patch set BPF schedulers get proper ops.dequeue()
> callbacks, but we're not fixing the usage of SCX_DSQ_LOCAL_ON from
> ops.dispatch().
> 
> When task properties change between scx_bpf_dsq_insert() and the actual
> dispatch, task_can_run_on_remote_rq() can still trigger a fatal
> scx_error().
> 
> The ops.dequeue(SCX_DEQ_SCHED_CHANGE) notifications happens after the
> property change, so it can't prevent already-queued dispatches from
> failing. The race window is between ops.dispatch() returning and
> dispatch_to_local_dsq() executing.
> 
> We can address this in a separate patch set. One thing at a time. :)
> 
>>
>> Furthermore I can reproduce the following with this patch applied quite easily
>> with something like
>>
>> hackbench -l 1000 & timeout 10 ./build/scheds/c/scx_storm
>>
>> [   44.356878] sched_ext: BPF scheduler "simple" enabled
>> [   59.315370] sched_ext: BPF scheduler "simple" disabled (unregistered from user space)
>> [   85.366747] sched_ext: BPF scheduler "storm" enabled
>> [   85.371324] ------------[ cut here ]------------
>> [   85.373370] WARNING: kernel/sched/sched.h:1571 at update_locked_rq+0x64/0x6c, CPU#5: gmain/1111
> 
> Ah yes! I think I see it, can you try this on top?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Andrea
> 
>  kernel/sched/ext.c | 2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/ext.c b/kernel/sched/ext.c
> index 6d6f1253039d8..d8fed4a49195d 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/ext.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/ext.c
> @@ -2248,7 +2248,7 @@ static void finish_dispatch(struct scx_sched *sch, struct rq *rq,
>  			p->scx.flags |= SCX_TASK_OPS_ENQUEUED;
>  		} else {
>  			if (p->scx.flags & SCX_TASK_OPS_ENQUEUED)
> -				SCX_CALL_OP_TASK(sch, SCX_KF_REST, dequeue, task_rq(p), p, 0);
> +				SCX_CALL_OP_TASK(sch, SCX_KF_REST, dequeue, rq, p, 0);
>  
>  			p->scx.flags &= ~SCX_TASK_OPS_ENQUEUED;
>  		}

Yup, that fixes it!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-02-02 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-01  9:08 [PATCHSET v4 sched_ext/for-6.20] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-01  9:08 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-01 22:47   ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-02  7:45     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-02  9:26       ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-02 10:02         ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-02 15:32           ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-02 10:09       ` Christian Loehle [this message]
2026-02-02 13:59       ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-02-04  9:36         ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-04  9:51           ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-02-02 11:56   ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-02-04 10:11     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-04 10:33       ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-02-01  9:08 ` [PATCH 2/2] selftests/sched_ext: Add test to validate " Andrea Righi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-02-10 21:26 [PATCHSET v8] sched_ext: Fix " Andrea Righi
2026-02-10 21:26 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-10 23:20   ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-11 16:06     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-11 19:47       ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-11 22:34         ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-11 22:37           ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-11 22:48             ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-12 10:16             ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-12 14:32               ` Christian Loehle
2026-02-12 15:45                 ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-12 17:07                   ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-12 18:14                     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-12 18:35                       ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-12 22:30                         ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-14 10:16                           ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-14 17:56                             ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-14 19:32                               ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-10 23:54   ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-11 16:07     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-06 13:54 [PATCHSET v7] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-06 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-06 20:35   ` Emil Tsalapatis
2026-02-07  9:26     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-09 17:28       ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-09 19:06         ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-05 15:32 [PATCHSET v6] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-05 15:32 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-05 19:29   ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-02-05 21:32     ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-04 16:05 [PATCHSET v5] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-04 16:05 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-02-04 22:14   ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-05  9:26     ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-26  8:41 [PATCHSET v3 sched_ext/for-6.20] " Andrea Righi
2026-01-26  8:41 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-01-27 16:38   ` Emil Tsalapatis
2026-01-27 16:41   ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-30  7:34     ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-30 13:14       ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-31  6:54         ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-31 16:45           ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-31 17:24             ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-28 21:21   ` Tejun Heo
2026-01-30 11:54     ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-31  9:02       ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-31 17:53         ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-31 20:26           ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-02 15:19             ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-02 15:30               ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-01 17:43       ` Tejun Heo
2026-02-02 15:52         ` Andrea Righi
2026-02-02 16:23           ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-21 12:25 [PATCHSET v2 sched_ext/for-6.20] " Andrea Righi
2026-01-21 12:25 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Andrea Righi
2026-01-21 12:54   ` Christian Loehle
2026-01-21 12:57     ` Andrea Righi
2026-01-22  9:28   ` Kuba Piecuch
2026-01-23 13:32     ` Andrea Righi
2025-12-19 22:43 [PATCH 0/2] sched_ext: Implement proper " Andrea Righi
2025-12-19 22:43 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched_ext: Fix " Andrea Righi
2025-12-28  3:20   ` Emil Tsalapatis
2025-12-29 16:36     ` Andrea Righi
2025-12-29 18:35       ` Emil Tsalapatis
2025-12-28 17:19   ` Tejun Heo
2025-12-28 23:28     ` Tejun Heo
2025-12-28 23:38       ` Tejun Heo
2025-12-29 17:07         ` Andrea Righi
2025-12-29 18:55           ` Emil Tsalapatis
2025-12-28 23:42   ` Tejun Heo
2025-12-29 17:17     ` Andrea Righi
2025-12-29  0:06   ` Tejun Heo
2025-12-29 18:56     ` Andrea Righi

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