From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] memcg_ext: memcg policy through cgroup-attached struct_ops
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2026 13:35:33 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bc6815954b8d08e75deadd43e1a2192c@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <arw4rjVkm2ob9ioL@linux.dev>
Hello, Shakeel.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2026 at 06:28:21AM -0700, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> I am fine with changing the default behavior. Actually, I have been
> contemplating whether I should propose a revert of commit c9afe31ec443e
> ("memcg: synchronously enforce memory.high for large overcharges") because
> it has introduced more problems than it has solved, but that is a separate
> topic. The initial commit already mentioned that MEMCG_CHARGE_BATCH was used
> arbitrarily, so replacing it with something big might be acceptable. I want
> to keep that decision separate.
Which kernel paths allocate enough for this to matter? Can you give specific
examples where the in-kernel synchronous enforcement helps?
> Returning to the actual proposal, my plan was to start small with a narrow,
> specific use case. However, my long-term plan is to provide a mechanism to
> change the default behavior for custom use cases. For example, for
> memory.high, I will provide a way for users to specify what behavior they
> want, i.e., whether or not they want more synchronous throttling.
This doesn't seem like a policy problem. It feels like a problem that should
be and can reasonably be solved for everybody, so I'm not sure whether BPF is
the right call for this specific purpose.
Thanks.
--
tejun
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-30 23:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-21 19:25 Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] bpf, cgroup: fix cgroup struct_ops query for a second attach type Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 20:19 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-29 11:49 ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] memcg_ext: add cgroup-attached bpf_memcg_ops Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] memcg_ext: allow BPF to defer memory.high enforcement Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 20:14 ` JP Kobryn
2026-09-24 21:19 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-21 19:25 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] selftests/bpf: add a cgroupfs lock-holder bpf_memcg_ops sample Shakeel Butt
2026-09-23 13:07 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] memcg_ext: memcg policy through cgroup-attached struct_ops Yafang Shao
2026-09-23 15:47 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-24 10:01 ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-24 20:42 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-28 3:23 ` Yafang Shao
2026-09-28 20:40 ` Tejun Heo
2026-09-30 13:28 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-09-30 23:35 ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2026-10-01 1:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2026-10-01 18:42 ` Tejun Heo
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